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bad monkeys

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I used to own a 2000 GT, but have since up graded to a 2007. My question is, is there anyway to get rid of the hesitation which takes place from idle to about 2200 rpm? The 3V motor would be a complete work of art if not for this problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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A tune will help, I've heard that CMCV deletes help.
 

bigcat

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get a tune!
 

V8JamesGT

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Might as well get an intake when you get your tune. Doug from Bamachips and Brent from brenspeed are GREAT tuners and can give you a good deal on an intake/tuner combo. I went with the JLT Intake and SCT Tuner from Brent and the throttle response is greatly improved and the power is awesome! The price was right too (only $554)!
 

Jenns01TA

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James,

You have an AOD or is it the DBW that was giving you heck?

~J~
 

bad monkeys

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The car is an 07 GT with a 5spd. The axle ratio says CG which I think is a 3.31 (correct me if I'm wrong). It's a great car but the throttle lag is a big PITA, especially in traffic. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
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bigcat said:
get a tune!
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+1!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Quick to rev

bad monkeys said:
I used to own a 2000 GT, but have since up graded to a 2007. My question is, is there anyway to get rid of the hesitation which takes place from idle to about 2200 rpm? The 3V motor would be a complete work of art if not for this problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I have an 07 GT also. Mine is a 5 speed Manual. I went with Brenspeed.com and bought my SCT Xcal2 tuner and C&L CAI with Pypes stainless steel mufflers at one time. It will make you crazy with the new power and NO LAG any more. Gas mileage will go up as a big plus, but you wont believe the second you blip the throttle the first time.

It turns it into another new car to re learn to drive and enjoy more.
 

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I was at a dead stop today, light went green and my car nosedived like never before. I had just come off a 60 MPH drive with cruise on for say about an hour. I was like WTF? And never done it again all day Sunday.
 

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bigcat said:
get a tune!
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+3
 
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ski

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ShowYa06 said:
I was at a dead stop today, light went green and my car nosedived like never before. I had just come off a 60 MPH drive with cruise on for say about an hour. I was like WTF? And never done it again all day Sunday.
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TSB 06-9-9

HESITATION ON ACCELERATION AFTER LONG CRUISE

FORD: 2005-2006 Mustang

ISSUE
Some 2005-2006 Mustangs may exhibit a hesitation on acceleration after a long cruise. After coming to a stop from a highway type cruise, some vehicles may experience a hesitation when the customer begins to accelerate. Air bubbles can form around the fuel pump during a long cruise and be ingested into the pump on acceleration causing a hesitation.

ACTION
Refer to Service Procedure for corrective action.

SERVICE PROCEDURE
1. Perform normal Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 303-04 diagnostics to isolate the concern to the fuel pump.
2. Replace the fuel pump per WSM, Section 310-01.

PART NUMBER
7R3Z-9H307-C
PART NAME
Sender And Pump Assy

WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage

OPERATION
(A)060909A
(B)MT060909
DESCRIPTION
(A)2005-2006 Mustang: Replace The Fuel Pump Module (Do Not Use With 9350E)
(B)Claim Additional Labor Required As Actual Time, Or Use SLTS Operation If Available
TIME
(A)0.9 Hr.
(B)Actual Time

DEALER CODING
Basic Part Number-9H307
Condition Code-53

NOTE: The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by “do-it-yourselfers”. Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a Ford, Lincoln, or Mercury dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article.The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supercede this information with updates.The most recent information is available through Ford Motor Company’s on-line technical resources.

Copyright „ 2006 Ford Motor Company Online Publication Date April 28, 2006 PAGE 1
 

bigcat

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for a complete copy of the TSBs, check out this link from the StangNet homepage.

http://www.stangnet.com/Tech-Articles/S197-Technical-Service-Bulletins-060923.html
 
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Ya mines done that but not sure how ford will react to my warrenty I'm sure they'll notice my heads and cams. Might as well step up to the better fuel pump.
 
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CAI + U/D pulleys + tune. So long to throttle lag.
 

bad monkeys

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If the aftermarket can tune out the throttle lag why can't Ford do it? I guess this is what happens when you loose a couple of billion dollars in one quarter. Call it corner cutting 101...I guess.

Thanks for the information. Who has the better tune...Brenspeed or Bamachip?
 

srothfuss

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From what I have read, the engineers at Ford detuned the factory setting to appeal to a much broader range of drivers than those of us who prefer instant reponse?

Bit it's just what I read....
 
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bad monkeys said:
If the aftermarket can tune out the throttle lag why can't Ford do it?
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Ford wants to minimize the amount of warranty work performed on damaged drivetrain components.
 
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rdmorrow

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Of the two, my vote would be Brenspeed.
I took mine to a mustang performance shop and put it on the dyno. They tuned it using an XCal.
RD
 

bigcat

start with the upper hole, and if more traction is
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ski said:
Ford wants to minimize the amount of warranty work performed on damaged drivetrain components.
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+1

300 hp sounds good, but they want to minimize the amount of abuse they will have to warranty. if they add lag, then its harder to beat on your car.
 

V8JamesGT

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Jenns05Stang said:
James,

You have an AOD or is it the DBW that was giving you heck?

~J~
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Whats AOD and DBW stand for?
If you were talking to me, I had a bad throttle position sensor. It was replaced under warrany and havnt had any problems since!
 
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