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Guero · May 9, 2006

ok thanks

Guero · May 9, 2006

ok did just the first 2 on the driver side. my battery might die if i do all. and no spark, i got a new plug i had, connected to the wire and touched it to the negaitve on the battery, and to a car ground no spark

SeventyMach1 · May 9, 2006

Okay. I guess you KNOW you don't have spark now.

If you can check for injector pulsing (as JT mentioned) you will pretty much narrow it down to the PIP .... which I seem to recall you replacing a while back, lol (A.K.A. Hall Effect Sensor).

If you can determine whether or not you have injector pulsing, you can start to check the coil. And TFI, etc.

HISSIN50 · May 9, 2006

Nice tech from Justin.

If you dont have a noid light, you can pull a plug and look for fuel on it.

I kinda think it will be an ignition issue alone (gut plus Justin's recollection about your PIP being newer). Look for constant key-on 12 volts at the coil + terminal, and a pulsing ground on the negative side of the coil. If you have those, toss a spare coil on and see what gives. If you dont have 12 volts and ground, we'll have to go through schematics. IIRC there is a fusible link for the hot side of the coil (if you're missing juice there).

Something you should do if you havent is to check each fuse in the underhood-fuse box. Make sure you didnt blow an ignition fuse.

I'm too tired to think of much else. Good luck bud.

BTW, we know you're a smart guy - you rip into many parts of the car and get them put back together faster than most folks.

mackey · May 9, 2006

What did the noise sound like. Sounds like you might have a broken Cam/Distributor gear if it isn't the TFI.

Guero · May 9, 2006

the cam is not turning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we took out the dizzy cap, and the rotor wasn't moving. so we took out the dizzy and cranked it and it didn't move! what the **** does that mean?????

mackey · May 9, 2006

Broken timing chain, sheared off the pin. Probably shouldn't have floored it when you had internal problems with the motor making noises.

mackey · May 9, 2006

Did your car make a loud bang when it shutoff or anything like that. Like a metal hitting metal noise. With what I have learned, if the car isn't running right and something is wrong. Don't drive it.

Guero · May 9, 2006

mackey said:
sheared off the pin

whats that

Guero · May 9, 2006

mackey said:
Did your car make a loud bang when it shutoff or anything like that. Like a metal hitting metal noise. With what I have learned, if the car isn't running right and something is wrong. Don't drive it.

not really i didn't hear anything out of place.

mackey · May 9, 2006

Well then you probably just ruined your cam or timing gear. HOPEFULLY a piston did not hit a valve or anything. Wouldn't want to screw up those TWs. Time to start taking it apart. Did you have the cam lined up right? Did you use a new timing gear? Did you put the right pin in the cam and make sure there wasn't much play?

Guero · May 9, 2006

**** that, im just taking it to my mechanic i aint dealing with these bs again

Guero · May 9, 2006

can a valve hit a piston without overrevving?

mackey · May 9, 2006

Well if a valve is stuck open because the cam is not moving and The crank is still pushing the pistons up and down. Yes it is very possible and probable.

Zero Signal · May 9, 2006

I seriously don't know how you could shear that pin

Does that cam come with a pin or not? If not, you should have transfer the stock one onto the TFS and the pin should have been incredibly tight. I needed the machinist to transfer it for me becuase it was pressed to tightly. So all I could think of, is either the pin wasn't in far enough and worked it's way out or it wasn't put in the new cam at all

BUT, if the cam seized and the motor kept going, I say there's 100% chance there are at least 4 bent or broken valves.

Leezure · May 9, 2006

OUCH! I too enjoy tuning in to another episode of "Guero's World" but I don't think I like where this storyline is going.

Take it apart assess the damage and consider having a professional degree the cam and set everything back up for you. I have done it all with a bit of success but the chance of me missing something and causing more damage than I can pay for is worth the extra dollars I spend on the comfort of knowing it was done right.

Swarzkopf · May 9, 2006

****, this completely sucks. Good luck Guero.

wytstang · May 9, 2006

Good luck mang....

mackey · May 9, 2006

Where are you from?

final5-0 · May 9, 2006

I find that hard to believe

I gotta think you got a broken oil pump shaft

OR .............

Maybe it has fallen down to the bottom of the pan

Are you sure you could not see the cam gear turning when you cranked over the motor

Grady

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