Oregon DEQ change

Mosix

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At work yesterday a DEQ rep came by the shop to explain a few changes to keep the air clean. This means no more dyno test for pre 89 cars, they will not check under hood but they will look for cats, any kind, not only stock but aftermarket are acceptable. No more nox failure and all the expense of that repair, no egr, carb will be fine. This is a basic CO and HC test, very easy to pass big cams, heads, 460 in a Fox and other packages.

Gospeed how is the stock car track at Madras, I am going to be at the dragstrip and might catch the circle track race Sat eve. Link??

From DEQ website​
As of July 1, 2005 the Enhanced Test (Dynamometer) will no longer be administered to 1981-1988 model year vehicles. All 1981-1988 model year vehicles will be given the Basic Test. The Enhanced Test will be fully phased out of DEQ operations by January 2007.
 
That is awesome news! Wonder if Washington will follow eventually? :nice:


Mosix said:
Gospeed how is the stock car track at Madras

I have only been there once and can offer you this...take a pair of goggles and a dust mask....HORRIBLE conditions when it goes dry-slick. It should be "ok" but dont compare it to Lebanon or you will be dissapointed:) let me know what you thought of it.
 
Don't get your hopes up.

http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=76745

SALEM, Ore. (AP) - Gov. Ted Kulongoski plans to bypass the Legislature to ensure that Oregon adopts California's tougher auto pollution standards.
Kulongoski has said he wants Oregon to get tough on global warming, arguing that promoting renewable energy and reducing greenhouse gas emissions will be good for the state's economy.

The push to adopt the California standards in Oregon first came in December when the Governor's Advisory Group on Global Warming included them among a number of steps the state should take to reduce emissions.

The governor, rather than rely on the Legislature, will form a task force to figure out how to adopt the California standards, which would also improve fuel efficency.

"We're going to move forward with it," he told The New York Times in an interview published Saturday. "It's going to be this year, I would expect."

The governor wasn't available for comment Monday, but his spokeswoman, Holly Armstrong, told The Oregonian that Kulongoski has long been committed to adopting the standards.

"It's always been about how to do this, not whether to do this," Armstrong said.

The auto industry opposes the California standards because it will cost more to build cars that pollute less and get better gas mileage. Eventually, the price of new cars could rise by more than $1,000 a year by 2016, according to a report by the Governor's Advisory Group. But much, if not all, of the increase could be offset by fuel savings.

California has long had tougher standards to combat air pollution. Now it is implementing new rules to reduce greenhouse gases. The auto industry is attacking those latter rules in court, saying the states are exceeding their authority to regulate vehicle standards.

Kulongoski announced formation of the task force earlier this month but did not provide any specifics on its work. Now he wants to move ahead with administrative rules, rather than waiting on legislation to enact the emission standards.

Paul Cosgrove, a lobbyist representing auto manufacturers, said Kulongoski is bypassing the Legislature because he knows it won't pass the tougher standards.

"I think a change that dramatic deserves to be brought into the legislative process," he said. "We will probably work with like-minded individuals to do what we can to slow it down or stop it."

Sen. Charlie Ringo, D-Beaverton, is sponsoring a bill that would implement the California standards in Oregon. So far, the bill has not moved out of committee.

"I don't care how we get there," he said. "As long as we adopt cleaner vehicle emissions, that's the goal for me."

The new standards, which would take effect in the 2009 model year, would also lead to their enactment in Washington. The Legislature there last week agreed to adopt the California rules - but it said they would only go into effect if Oregon followed suit.

Other states with the tougher standards are Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island and Vermont.
 
Duner, isnt your article referring to new cars? Hopefully the new car emmisions wont be so tough...but it would sure be nice if they eased up on older car emissions as there are fewer and fewer on the roads every year.
 
gospeedgo said:
Duner, isnt your article referring to new cars? Hopefully the new car emmisions wont be so tough...but it would sure be nice if they eased up on older car emissions as there are fewer and fewer on the roads every year.

Sounds like it. But why would they stop there?

Remember the leanings and attitudes of the politicians in Salem. I'll bet that if the gov gets his way all of the standards will become stricter. Why would they only adopt California's new vehicle standards and not all of the standards?

Remember these are the same people that want GPS tracking devices on our cars so they can charge us for every mile we drive. This includes higher taxes depending on where and when you drive. This comes about partly because governments promote high efficiency vehicles and then realizes that this will create a loss of gas tax revenue. Let’s not forget about the Big Brother aspects of this.

I don’t know how this will affect older cars emission standards. I do know the nature of politicians and their desire for tax money and power.

What the hell am I doing up and responding at 5:45am :D
 
We discussed the changes proposed by using the California standards and they will affect the new cars produced. Old cars, 95 and older are a small part of the cars on the road, and are not cost effective to keep the enhanced testing as they contribute a very small amount to the pollution. Most of the changes have to do with the next gen of engine control computers and data buss. Did anyone know that they have drive by sniffers they are testing that are like photo radar and test cars as they set in line waiting for the ramp signal? If you are a gross polluter they will send you a letter to meet emission compliance or suspend your registration. Big brother looking out for us, _u__ I feel safe.
Use it up, Wear it out, Eat it all. I won’t be here to care.​
 
Mosix said:
We discussed the changes proposed by using the California standards and they will affect the new cars produced. Old cars, 95 and older are a small part of the cars on the road, and are not cost effective to keep the enhanced testing as they contribute a very small amount to the pollution. Most of the changes have to do with the next gen of engine control computers and data buss. Did anyone know that they have drive by sniffers they are testing that are like photo radar and test cars as they set in line waiting for the ramp signal? If you are a gross polluter they will send you a letter to meet emission compliance or suspend your registration. Big brother looking out for us, _u__ I feel safe.
Use it up, Wear it out, Eat it all. I won’t be here to care.​

The company that has produced the majority of these highway sniffers is, as I recall, a sister company to Mustang Dynamometer. They started by producting sensors and moved into dyno manufacturing. Not only have many states purchased their dynos, but many are buying their highway sniffers too. This sucks!