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Outcome? My 88gt Vs. VW golf turbo 280rwhp?

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A buddy of mine has a older 90's VW golf with a built 16v 2.0 motor. he has a t3/t4 turbo running 14psi and said it was on the dyno and made 280rwhp. I know his car is lighter, but this car is front wheel drive. Said he cant get traction in 1st or 2nd. Im sure his boost comes on late also, and he has alot less trq then i have. What do you think the outcome would be with both me and him running? here is the info on my car....

88 GT
GT40 upper/lower
MAC headers
No speed density (swapped MAF from 89GT)
Flowmasters
H pipe
K&N intake
MSD ignition
373 gears
King cobra clutch
Upgraded T5
Weld drag lites with skinny up front
Drag springs
FPR set at 40psi

Stock heads/block

Do I have a chance???

What about a wet shot of nitrous? How much could I run?

Any other free mods i could do to help me gain a few HP? Maybe advance my timing? Lower fuel pressure?

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Boosted92LX

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wouldn't that be 280 fwhp?
 

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Your car is pretty much stock besides an intake, full exhaust and rear gears. You could probably beat him off the line pretty easily but I think he would eventually overcome you and pull away.
 

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Last year I had a 93 Sentra that had a sr20det that dynoed 275 and it ran high 13s with little to no traction. I know its a different car and turbo but they probably would run about the same quarter mile times. If you do it you might need a little help(nitrous).
 

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you goin down sir
 

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That can of sauerkraut is gonna eat you up.
 

gt40_2003wes

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ask to go from a dig and only race to the top of second gear and u may have a chance
 
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How much spray will I need?

Whats the max I can run on my motor?
 
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I also think the VW will win at the top end. Go to your local track on test & tune night & find out. Its just for fun anyway right? I know it sucks to get beat by an import but, my buddy has a 3000 GT VR4 twin turbo that will walk all over me & he enjoys rubbing that in. It runs 11's @ 4000 lb & 23 psi boost with just a little 3.0 engine. Let us know how it turns out. It should get you motivated to start building your car more. it did me.
 

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Cutter1024 said:
How much spray will I need?

Whats the max I can run on my motor?
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Hit it with 175, the stock motor will take it
 

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Let me drive?
 

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Run from a dig, launch really hard, and you will probably be in 4th gear before he comes past you. If you are talking 1/4 mile drag strip I think it will be close.
 

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Hes going to win if he can drive the car right.
 

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The major advantage you have is drag wheels/tires and around 300 lb ft of torque to launch with. Use it to your advantage and you will last into third gear. After that, PPPPPSSSHHHHHHHHH buhbye. You could spray a 50 shot and probably hang if not beat him.
 

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If he wants to do some bs highway roll racing, you probably don't stand much of a chance.
 
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I know how to drive, so driver issue will not be a problem.

I owned 4 MR2 turbos before my mustang, and all of them have been 250rwhp up to 380rwhp which i have sold prior to the mustang.

I know a t3/t4 is a pretty big turbo (i had a TD06 20G on my MR2 running 22psi), and he will have alot of lag with only 14psi. Even though he has a big weight advantage, if I also had 280rwhp but weigh 500lbs more.... I can still take him.

So you think i have about 250rwhp? Anything I can do to tweak/tune to squeeze some more horse out of the mods i already have? Lower fuel pressure? Run higher octane with more advanced timing? I never screwed with the timing, so i guess its still stock....

What kind of power can i expect from timing, and running 93 octane?
 

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Like 5 more hp...if that
 

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I'd be very suprised if u had 250 RWHP
 

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Race from a stop, i dont think you have a chance if you race from a roll. He wont Kill you but should beat you! You have tq, he doesnt. use it to your advantage!!! It'll be close. post up results!!
 

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As long as it is a legal track environment

Have you seen the car run before? He could be BSing you either way. As a former VW guy Im kinda curious what his set up is.
 
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