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Ryanh19

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Hello,
I have these codes on my 2000 3.8 and I don't know what to do. For the P0193 code I have replaced the fuel rail pressure sensor and have checked the wiring. It is getting 5 volts. I'm not sure what else it could be

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when you turn the key all the way on do you hear the fuel pump kick on before you try to start it ?
 
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rattlecan96gt said:
when you turn the key all the way on do you hear the fuel pump kick on before you try to start it ?
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Yes I do
 

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hmm ill do some research and see if I can find anything until then try posting this in the tech section you should be able to get the attention of someone with more experience
 
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hmm ill do some research and see if I can find anything until then try posting this in the tech section you should be able to get the attention of someone with more experience
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Awesome! Thanks I appreciate it!
 

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No problem , welcome to StangNet!
 

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Are you POSITIVE that the fuel rail pressure sensor intake vacuum reference line is connected, open, and leak free?

What have you done to rule out a problem with the FRPS signal return line back to the PCM? Have you checked the FRPS signal return line for shorts to ground or shorts to VPWR?

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P0172 - System to Rich (Bank 1)
Air Measurement System
  • MAF sensor (contaminated, damaged, malfunctioning, etc.)
Fuel System
  • Fuel pressure regulator (leaking, malfunctioning, etc.).
  • Fuel filter plugged, dirty.
  • Fuel pump (weak, check valve leaking, etc.).
  • Leaking/contaminated fuel injectors.
  • Low fuel pressure or running out of fuel.
  • EVAP canister purge valve leaking (when canister is "clean").
  • Fuel supply line restricted.
  • Fuel rail pressure sensor (incorrect reading).
Air Induction System
  • Air leaks after the MAF.
  • Vacuum Leaks.
  • PCV system (leak, valve stuck open, etc.)
  • Improperly seated engine oil dipstick.
Exhaust System
  • Exhaust leaks before or near the HO2Ss (exhaust manifold gasket, mating gaskets, etc.).
EGR System
  • EGR valve tube/gasket leak
  • EVR solenoid vacuum leak
Secondary Air Injection
  • Damaged/malfunctioning secondary air injection system (mechanically stuck valve).

P0193 - Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor Circuit High Input (FRP)
  • FRP signal shorted to VREF or VPWR.
  • FRP signal open (gasoline only)
  • Low fuel pressure (NG only)
  • Damaged FRP sensor.
  • Damaged PCM.
 
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