He said 5k no? $2500 or a hair more would get you a b and g kit
It should be the same as the regular system I thought?
The basic system doesn't come with the ceramic coating and has 2.5 inch cold side piping. I figure I may as well just do the 3 inch upgrade now so i don't have to worry later. I may get the hot side piping and do the cold side myself later. I have time to figure this all out. Just don't know if I want to deal with the headache of building the cold side or just shell out the coin to get the whole kit.
92GreenGT, can I get some up close pictures of your engine bay from different angles?
$3995 for the Hellion kit now. Fit and finish is better on the Hellion kit and it uses better components, so you have to ask yourself if it's worth the $1300 extra. I would vote yes after seeing both go on, personal opinion though.
I've got about 2100-2200$ into my Hellion kit, it's really worth buying used.
The basic system doesn't come with the ceramic coating and has 2.5 inch cold side piping. I figure I may as well just do the 3 inch upgrade now so i don't have to worry later. I may get the hot side piping and do the cold side myself later. I have time to figure this all out. Just don't know if I want to deal with the headache of building the cold side or just shell out the coin to get the whole kit.
92GreenGT, can I get some up close pictures of your engine bay from different angles?
Who has said completely opposite on the subject that actually has experience with both kits? I'm as fair as they come when giving honest opinions about things like that.I've heard people commenting completely opposite on the subject.
As for componets...with the exception of the turbo, what else is better?
Hmmmm, maybe I will go with the 2.5 inch cold side then, saves me a couple hundred bucks then. Thanks for the input again. Do you have pics of your kit? I've always liked the hellion kits, but b&g's price is outstanding. Well see when the time comes.
Do you think I will be able to use all the factory front accessories? I dont want to swap out anything.
The B&G just requires the pipe from the intercooler to be sectioned out to get a MAF in there. Hopefully mine will be safe to run as a blow thru.
Who has said completely opposite on the subject that actually has experience with both kits? I'm as fair as they come when giving honest opinions about things like that.
The kit differences:
Hellion uses stainless steel for everything, minus the headers(mild steel just like B&G) Hellion also has polished piping where visible under the hood. The only gripe I have with the Hellion kit is the crappy bypass valve it comes with, you basically have to upgrade that. What's the deal with the B&G branded wastegate and blow off valve in the B&G kits? I don't remember seeing that or reading anything about it, are they tial knockoffs with his name on it or what's the deal(if you know?) I guess depending on the situation with the "B&G" wastegate and bov, the turbonetics pieces in the hellion kit could be better. The differences aren't huge there is a difference, some people could care less about what the piping is made out of, so again it comes down to personal prefernce. Another thing about the B&G kits is do they come with the Ypipe to hook it up to a factory location catback? My buddies did not, and I didn't see anything about it on their site.
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I agree with Millhouse on the cold side upgrade. It's really not needed and the bigger cold side can slow spool up. The ceramic coating is a good option if you can swing it but not super important to have.
A few more things I was thinking about the B&G kit vs the Hellion kit. The B&G doesn't have a downpipe that comes apart right after the turbo so the plug changes are a bitch with the 3.5" DP. Also, does the B&G kit come ready to install a MAF on? Based on their site it doesn't come with the correct silicone/tbolts and it has to be cut to install a MAF(based on looking at pics). My buddies car wasn't using the MAF(AEM EMS) so I don't know if it's an option when ordering or what. So yeah, there are differences between the B&G and Hellion and I do believe the Hellion is well worth the extra money if you plan to drive the car more like a street car. I also think the other kits such as the B&G, HP, etc are a better setup to make power compared to the Hellion. So there are drawbacks to each of them, you just have to weigh out the pros vs cons to see which route you want to go with.
I do have a pic of the Hellion kit installed on my car. Here is a pic of the Hellion kit and my old DIY kit, the engine bay is about to be cleaned up, holes filled and painted when the new engine goes in.
Hellion(I've got a black heat blanket on there now but no new pics, I recommend you getting one also) .
As for the price difference…really, the only advantage I see that hellion has is the better turbo, shiny tubing and the addition of the removable downpipe. Both would be sufficient for a daily driver….and both would most likely make comparable numbers. That extra $1500+ could go a loooooong way however when you still need an upgraded fuel system and a tune.
Your right, those are the advantages plus not having to cut a spot for the MAF and order silicone/tbolts for your MAF. Realistically I would say the difference is about $1100-1200 instead of the "1500+". The turbo is a big chunk of that, the rest are just bonuses. That being said, I would buy a B&G kit without hesitation.
BTW, Mac'nBlack don't get caught up in seeing these 2800$ prices for the B&G kit. Remember to budget in your fuel system, tune, gauges and def check out a heat blanket for the hotside of the turbo.
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Just add more fuel to the fire, if you're worried about a grand making or breaking a deal then you don't need a turbomustang becuase it'll suck a lot more money than that from you.
You should be fine with the 42's and the 255 intank. Do you have a MAF yet? I'd buget enough to get:
42's
Turbo kit(+whatever options your planning on)
maf(if you don't already have it)
silicone/tbolts for MAF
chip/tune
heat blanket for exhaust housing(can come later but it really helps)
good catback(aka straight through design)
Good thing about going with a turbo kit is that if you have any exhaust mods already(headers and midpipe) or a CAI you can sell those to put towards the kit.
I have a 75 mm MAF for 19's but my tuner said he can change it for the 42's
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