Picture of the under car!

iceturbo · Mar 3, 2009

Hi,

I'm looking for the picture of the under car of a mustang II! Because I've been told that the gas tank of those car have a 90° bend with almost no radius! SO I was looking to find a picture to see what is there and why there is a so special bend!

Thanks a lot!

LILCBRA · Mar 3, 2009

Although I don't think this is exactly what you are after, here is a link to the .net site with a pic of the undercarriage.

Mustang II Network - Mustang II Network - IMSA Assembly line and other misc pohotos Photos

iceturbo · Mar 4, 2009

It is not exactly what I was looking for but it is gonna help!

Thank a lot and keep looking!

Vegas Stang · Mar 4, 2009

Does this help?

StangIIttop · Mar 4, 2009

If you think the radius is close you should check the bends going from the fenderwell down around the frame up to the fuel pump.

iceturbo · Mar 5, 2009

Thanx Vegas Stang! Do you have the picture of were the tank goes?

StangIITTop: could you explaine that? I'm not sure I follow you?

Thanx!

LILCBRA · Mar 5, 2009

So, you want a pic without the tank in place? I had some close up pics of that area when I converted mine to a fox body tank. I can't seem to find them right now. In fact, I think I started a thread on here probably 3 or so years ago about it when I converted it. You may want to start there, you may get lucky and find it. I will keep looking for those pics and let you know.

edit: I looked up the old thread, and there are no pics there. I will keep looking. I can't imagine I don't have them any longer.

LILCBRA · Mar 5, 2009

Sorry, I guess I can't help. I can't find those pics anywhere on my machine.

iceturbo · Mar 5, 2009

LILCBRA said:
Sorry, I guess I can't help. I can't find those pics anywhere on my machine.

It's not a problem! I really apreciate the time you took to try to find the pictures!

78CobraII · Mar 6, 2009

iceturbo,

It would be easier for to help if we knew what you were looking for, and from what viewpoint.

Are you looking for a specific kind of bend from a metal-working or design viewpoint?

If so, the MII does not have any unusual design features (with regard to sheetmetal design).

A "90° bend with almost no radius" would be a very poor design feature in a structural stamping like a floorpan or frame rail because it would have very little strength in an accident, plus it would be difficult to stamp without tearing the metal.

A non-structural element like a fuel tank may have a "90° bend with almost no radius", but it will usually be at a flange again because of the difficulty in drawing the metal to that angle in the middle of a stamping. In fact in the fuel tank pic above, you can see the flange that mates the two halves of the tank together has a "90° bend with almost no radius", but the rest of the tank has 90° bends with at least 1 inch radius.

I guess I'm just trying to understand your question better.

StangIIttop · Mar 8, 2009

The only 90 deg bend with a close radius would be the fuel line that I can see.

iceturbo · Mar 16, 2009

Hey! I have pictures of what I'm talking about! But I don't know how to post them! Could I send them to some one ho could post them?

Thanks!

78CobraII · Mar 16, 2009

You have mail.

iceturbo · Mar 19, 2009

78CobraII said:
You have mail.

U2

Thank for hosting my pics!

78CobraII · Mar 25, 2009

Here are two of the pics that Iceturbo sent me...cropped and reduced a bit.

They appear to be of two different tanks. I recall that there are at least two tank designs for the MII. Are there more? Do we know the dates that these tanks were used?

The pics also show the small radius bend that he is concerned with...its where the upper dome meets the flat deck. Apparently this radius is so tight that it will cause manufacturing problems. Would there be a clearance problem with increasing this radius to 1 inch?

Iceturbo works for a manufacturer that is investigating making replacement MII fuel tanks, so it would be great if we could get him some info.

I'm calling this tank "No1", but it looks like the one I have in my 1978 coupe (without the saddle tank).

78CobraII · Mar 25, 2009

This is tank "No2". What MII would this one come from?

78CobraII · Mar 25, 2009

Here is a pic of the rear of my 78 coupe with everything removed. I've labeled the curve of the spare tire well, which I see as a possible area of interference if the radius of the bend between the tank dome and the deck is increased to 1 inch.

Does anyone have a pic of their tank installed with this area clearly shown? It would help determine if there is a possibility of interference.

Also...are the tank straps the same for both tanks?

Is there a source for new tanks straps?

How about for fuel level senders?

Anybody near Quebec want to be a tester for a new tank?

Thanks!

Dano78 · Mar 26, 2009

This should shed light on the subject-

Gas tank comparison

iceturbo · Mar 26, 2009

Thank you very much 78CobraII for the pictures and for posting my pics!

Thanx Dano78 for the link! Really interesting!!!

iceturbo · Apr 1, 2009

Is there anyone else who have any pictures on the gas tank area or the gas tank straps or a link with info?

Thank you!

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