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BACKINTANG

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I can't take the pain anymore. Please sneak into my house while I am asleep, look in my nightstand drawer, pull out the .45 and shoot me. Or you can just bring a trailer and take this %$^*$#@^*!#@$)!&@ Mustang out of the garage. Ok enough of that. I finally removed the master cylinder by removing it via under the dash. I got the pushrod out with the piston attatched. How do you get the piston off of the push rod. Do I beed to buy a new pushrod for my new duel MC? I just bought a new M1A (rifle) and I am at the point that I want to use the car as a target. Damn I need a valium or a new hobby.
 

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your pushrod stuck in the master cylinder?
i take it you have manual brakes.

When In doubt, use a hammer.
If that does not work, then light it on fire.
 
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Ha......do I sense a little frustration there?

How much does the job pay and do you cover expenses?

Seriously though......needlework is fun and if you make a balls of it, you can pull the stitches out and start again.
 

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the pushrod is held inside the master cyl with a type of clip. put the MC on a vise and use some leverage to pull it out.

the best part about doing something you never done is figuring out a way to not let it beat you.

IF IT WAS EASY EVERYONE WOULD TRY TO RESTORE AN OLD CAR.
 

67coupestang

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ususally when ive gotten a new m/c its come with the pushrod, other wise mount it in a vise and use a slide hammer on it and whack the crap out of it. its held in with a clip
 
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I have consumed 2 very good beers (Carolina beer company Frostbite) and feel much better. I did get the snap ring out. Tommorrow I will put it in the vise and hit it with a slide hammer. For now I will consume some more and go sit in the hot tub and contemplate buying a totally restored 66 fastback. Yes I do have manual brakes. The only reason I am restoring this car is because it was the car I learned to drive in. My father purchased it new in 66. He hit his second childhood in 85 and purchased a new 85 GT. The car sat for 11 years under an oak tree before I gained possesion in 96. I finally have the time and money to get it together. I know I could pay for someone else to do the job, but I want to have bragging rights that I did it myself. I am now paying for the 11 years it sat unattended. Oh well, it beats sitting in a bar.
 

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i'm all for drinking beer when working on my car except for some strang reason not drinking when i do the brakes


besides that ...
 

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BACKINTANG said:
I can't take the pain anymore. Please sneak into my house while I am asleep, look in my nightstand drawer, pull out the .45 and shoot me. Or you can just bring a trailer and take this %$^*$#@^*!#@$)!&@ Mustang out of the garage. Ok enough of that. I finally removed the master cylinder by removing it via under the dash. I got the pushrod out with the piston attatched. How do you get the piston off of the push rod. Do I beed to buy a new pushrod for my new duel MC? I just bought a new M1A (rifle) and I am at the point that I want to use the car as a target. Damn I need a valium or a new hobby.
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One thing you will notice as you spend more time working on your car is that it gets much easier. There are a lot of little tricks in how to do various things, and just knowing what size wrench to grab by looking at the fastener saves a lot of time.

I've also noticed that when I have a deadline a project can become less fun. I'm currently working on swapping a 302 into my car, and I'm worried about beating the snow. Being in a hurry puts a damper on things and tempts you to cut corners. The results can suffer.

Anyway, good luck and I hope things go better.
 

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I'm in my second childhood. I finally got that 67 coupe that I always wanted. As my lady friend says, it's cheaper than a head shrink.
 

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I think your original emotions were correct - that car is too much trouble, you should not waste any more time on it.

I will PM my address later, will be happy to take that abortion off your hands and contribute thusly to your longer, better life
 
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The directions that came with my SSBC disc conversion kit say to put the cylinder thing the pushrod is in, in a vise and use a hacksaw to cut it parallel with the pushrod half way through. Don't cut it too far or you'll just end up cutting the pushrod itself. Another way I found out is to put the pushrod and the thing surrounding the end of it in the vise grip and keep tightening the vise grip until it cracks off. It's not that strong of metal. Maybe it worked because I already started to cut it in half. I can't look at the directions right now because i'm at school. Yay for study hall
 

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Maybe its different for a '68, but the pushrod for my MC just slides out. It had an o-ring, but nothing for a clip to catch on.
 

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mine to.
 

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hungrymonkey said:
your pushrod stuck in the master cylinder?
i take it you have manual brakes.

When In doubt, use a hammer.
If that does not work, then light it on fire.
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i thought you ran whatever over first, then lit it on fire
 

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no snap ring or clip holding my pushrod in place either. When I unbolt the master cylinder, the pushrod stays behind
 

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Hack said:
I'm currently working on swapping a 302 into my car, and I'm worried about beating the snow.
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I can completely understand, I have been waiting for 4 long months for the temperatures in my garage to dip down to the 90s, so I can get some more work done. I cannot stand working while sweat drips into my eyes and onto the project.
 

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BACKINTANG said:
I finally removed the master cylinder by removing it via under the dash.
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How or why did you do that? The M/C is nutted onto two studs through the firewall in the engine bay coming from the brake bracket
 

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Go Back and Read His Posts.......

krash kendall said:
How or why did you do that? The M/C is nutted onto two studs through the firewall in the engine bay coming from the brake bracket
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Remember he said he has manual brakes, so the master cylinder is bolted directly to the firewall, and the nuts that hold it in place are accessible inside the car. Kinda like removing the booster/master cylinder from a power-brake car.
 

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uh...the bolts that you remove are under the hood. No need to get under the dash to unbolt it. The nuts are held in place with some little square brackets, so you can't get a wrench on them anyway (at least thats the way my original 66 coupe is).
 

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Yeah, the pedal support has permanent threaded inserts, not removable nuts. The MC bolts thread in from the engine bay.

EDIT: Unless someone stripped out the inserts and had to use longer bolts with nuts on the back.
 
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