WaterPog said:Do they have dragstrips in mexico?
HairyCanary said:What scares me is the number of people I consider intelligent that are still voting for Bush...
Yes they do..I will racing on one of them really soon.....heheWaterPog said:Do they have dragstrips in mexico?
jordanvraptor said:Intelligence and opinion are two different things. I think you are intelligent Dave, I just have a different political opinion.
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ZeroCool said:Yes they do..I will racing on one of them really soon.....hehe
jordanvraptor said:But, at Mexican dragstrips, when the light goes green, you run up to the car and pull the driver out, then take off down the strip....
HairyCanary said:What scares me is the number of people I consider intelligent that are still voting for Bush...
Well, it certainly can't be any dumber than voting for someone who believes himself to be annointed by God to be POTUS, and therefore he can do no wrong. This attitude got us into Iraq, where we are still blowing resources we could have been using to hunt down and exterminate Bin Laden. We should congratulate W for ridding this world of a minor annoyance, in the process sacrificing many lives and wasting a huge amount of money. In the meantime, the terrorist who orchestrated an attack on American soil continues to be free ... and he is arguably a much greater threat to us than Saddam ever was...sn98gt said:So voting for someone that's changed his stance/point of view on several different things several different times is smart???
HairyCanary said:Well, it certainly can't be any dumber than voting for someone who believes himself to be annointed by God to be POTUS, and therefore he can do no wrong. This attitude got us into Iraq, where we are still blowing resources we could have been using to hunt down and exterminate Bin Laden. We should congratulate W for ridding this world of a minor annoyance, in the process sacrificing many lives and wasting a huge amount of money. In the meantime, the terrorist who orchestrated an attack on American soil continues to be free ... and he is arguably a much greater threat to us than Saddam ever was...
ZeroCool said:Just pencil in Ahnold!
HairyCanary said:Well, it certainly can't be any dumber than voting for someone who believes himself to be annointed by God to be POTUS, and therefore he can do no wrong.
HairyCanary said:This attitude got us into Iraq, where we are still blowing resources we could have been using to hunt down and exterminate Bin Laden.
HairyCanary said:We should congratulate W for ridding this world of a minor annoyance, in the process sacrificing many lives and wasting a huge amount of money.
HairyCanary said:In the meantime, the terrorist who orchestrated an attack on American soil continues to be free ... and he [Bin Laden] is arguably a much greater threat to us than Saddam ever was.
What is important to me about GW's belief structure is the conviction that he cannot make mistakes, and that his way is the only Right Way. That's what I mean by "annointed by God". He is still human, but he seems to have lost sight of that fact. I still have not seen anything aside from GW's own statements that indicates Kerry has actually flip-flopped in any meaninful way on a major issue. To a fault, he responds very specifically to questions, and some republicans have used these statements against him, by misquoting him (funny how different a quote can be made to sound if you leave a few words off the beginning or end ... nobody will realize you've done it, and *technically* the quote is still correct).Frankenstang65 said:Well, now that's news. A Christian making the assumption that god has something to do with the success and outcome of his/her life. A LOT of people believe that a "greater power" has influence on their lives and the lives of others, and that what happens in this world is a reflection of the "will of god". You don't even have to be a Christian to entertain concepts of destiny, spiritual signs and omens, etc. Your statement is an exaggeration of a belief that both candidates share equally.
Well, 80 billion is obviously not enough to deal with bin Laden, since we have not caught or killed him yet. It could be 200 billion if we didn't have to reconstruct Iraq -- keeping in mind that it only needs to be reconstructed because we destroyed it.Approx 120 billion has been appropriated for use in the reconstruction of Iraq.
Approx 80 billion is headed to Afghanistan and the war on terror - to help capture Osama, aid in reconstruction and peacekeeping support, and to continue to aid other nations is combating terrorists on foreign soil, etc. 80 billion isn't enough to deal with Bin Laden??
With all due respect to the Kurds, if it comes down to them or Americans, I will give priority to Americans -- it's our own citizens that were killed when the twin towers were destroyed.Tell the Kurds he was a “minor annoyance”. I can’t help but wonder if the families of those 300,000 dissidents and ethnic minorities Saddam buried in over 40 mass graves would agree with that kind of terminology.
Alright, tell me how many nations he has attacked while we had 2/3 of his country covered with a no-fly zone. We crippled his country with sanctions, and effectively castrated his ability to do *anything* threatening to other countries. He may have been a threat in the past, but for a number of years before we invaded Iraq a second time, he has been merely an annoyance.Or maybe tell Kuwait or the other Arab nations that Saddam has either threatened or outright attacked that he was just a little fly buzzing around.
As many as it takes. The world does not belong to us. If the UN never authorized force, then we should never have used any unless Saddam became a direct threat to the United States or one of her allies.How many resolutions, human rights sanctions, cease-fire treaties, weapons treaties, and the like must one break before raising his status to say “problem” or perhaps “big problem”?
Saudi Arabia does more to support terrorists than Iraq. Bin Laden is a Saudi Arabia native. And have you taken a good look at the Saudi's human rights record? Why aren't we invading *them*??The world, including your candidate who voted to authorize use of force and spoke many times regarding the threat, has recognized repeatedly the risk of Iraq to the stability of the Middle East, Iraq’s continued breach of international resolutions, and Iraq’s ties to a variety of terrorists including Abu Nidal, Zarkowi, and Al Qaida. This of course, notwithstanding the almost universally accepted belief that Saddam was likely deceiving the international community with regard to his illegal weapons programs.
No offense, but I'd like to use this phrase as a demonstration of a problem I think faces our country -- we're declaring war on nouns, because other people are declaring war on nouns. Bin Laden is waging war on "western values"? That's what we tell ourself to make it all feel okay. And we're declaring war on "terrorism"?? Neither of these make any sense at all -- if we're going to declare war, it needs to have a goal. Saying that we're going to war on terrorism is like going to war on drugs -- it's a never ending war, it cannot be won, because there is no definition of winning. Watch carefully, and you will see that the real losers in this so-called war are ourselves.... his abilities to wage war on western values ...
Yep, I will not deny that, I am not voting for Kerry so much as I am voting against Bush. I do not think its too extreme to suggest that another four years with Bush will put us closer to nuclear confrontation than we have been in at least 30 years. I am that scared, yes. Not because he's a republican, but because he has a one-track-mind, and he believes himself infallible, and he believes he has been given a mission by God to liberate the world.Living in Bellingham, and doing research work with very liberal professors and graduate students, I speak with a lot of Kerry supporters. The funny thing is, I’ve not met one who could articulate with any degree of reliability why they are voting FOR John Kerry. Everyone on that side, it seems, is voting AGAINST Bush.
And on that we agreeRegardless, I congratulate anyone who reads up, formulates an opinion, voices it in public or private, and then goes out and votes – no matter the party.
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