tmoneyballin
New Member
Sorry next time I just won't mention the "collector" bolts issue with a fellow stanger that might say "hey $100 and I can swap my own exhaust..." Some people might appreciate the fact that if you have never done an exhaust swap on a mustang before you really stand about a 50/50 chance of stripping at least one bolt on one of the collectors - my appologies for not using the EXACT name, but if anybody reading this understood ANYTHING about a mustang you would know what bolts I am talking about - you don't mess with the bolts on the heads doing a mid pipe swap obviously. To answer the $250 question - I said some shops "can" charge you that much to do it - I think mine cost me about $150 because I just went to the local muffler shop - Tom Dugan who stripped it wanted like $300 I think and I told him what I thought about that price and him creating a problem - because they don't mess around with that stuff I guess - and they do bad work in general - I probably would have had a blown up engine by the time he fixed that one problem he created...One thing to note on the repair is if the shop is slippery they could charge you another $50 bucks for doing the swap in addition to the header labor/parts - it really depends on the shop because if you have an off road setup you are at the shops mercy as far as price because they are doing work on an illegal setup, so if you don' t like your prices you run the risk of going to the next guy down the street who has a passion for pollution control and he decides to make your day worse with a friendly call to the local police - trust me if you think running no cats is a joke and you'll get a slap on the wrist if you get caught you are just ignorant - it's a felony - and I know someone who was married to a cop that had to jump through loops to clear up the "no cat" charge. I am old fashioned and know the guys at one of the local shops - all it takes for me to do a swap is $50 bucks and offer up a 1/5 of Hennessey to get the job done - For the headaches of doing it in my driveway I would go that route any day rather then spending the time and effort to do it in my driveway - not to mention my mufflers are welded to my h pipe not bolted - so I don't really have a choice....
You wouldn't just get "new headers" for a couple reasons : a. the cobra headers are already good to go - you would only get a small hp improvement UNLESS you went with long tubes(so you would be wasting money) b. you would have a lot more man hours involved in installing new headers - moving the engine around an so on.... c. the average person who just bought a standard x/h/etc pipe was not looking to turn a $200-$400 simple swap into a grand. Once that pipe is installed and considered "used" you can't just turn around and scrap it and say "well I screwed up, so I guess I'll junk everything and pick up a full long tube exhaust"
Again if you were attempting an exhaust swap then you would know what bolts I was referring to in the first place, just wanted to help out an amateur that wasn't looking to start a nightmare....I leave it at that instead of responding to each personal attack you try and throw at me...at the end of the day 13 grand is done to my "daily driver" and that's all I care about - good luck on the swap for those who try it!
You wouldn't just get "new headers" for a couple reasons : a. the cobra headers are already good to go - you would only get a small hp improvement UNLESS you went with long tubes(so you would be wasting money) b. you would have a lot more man hours involved in installing new headers - moving the engine around an so on.... c. the average person who just bought a standard x/h/etc pipe was not looking to turn a $200-$400 simple swap into a grand. Once that pipe is installed and considered "used" you can't just turn around and scrap it and say "well I screwed up, so I guess I'll junk everything and pick up a full long tube exhaust"
Again if you were attempting an exhaust swap then you would know what bolts I was referring to in the first place, just wanted to help out an amateur that wasn't looking to start a nightmare....I leave it at that instead of responding to each personal attack you try and throw at me...at the end of the day 13 grand is done to my "daily driver" and that's all I care about - good luck on the swap for those who try it!
