ProCharger, Worth it ? ! ? ! ?

04gtdrop · May 23, 2006

ok guys, tonight i was offered a progcharger s/c by a friend of mine. He is playing middle man for the deal. He said they guy doesnt want to put it on his 04 GT so he wants to sell it.

He is asking 1,700 for it. Suposedly it is a brand new in the box procharger supercharger, with all the hardware and intercooler.

My question to you guys out there is, is it worth it? It almost sounds TOO good to be true, ya know?

For anyone that is running a procharger, how do you like it? any problems?

What are the pro's and con's or the procharger setup?

I was going to hold out for a vortech, but i dont want to pass up a super good deal. I want to go S/C really bad!

Would i need anything else for the install?

What should i beware of or look out for? Does this sound too good to be true or fishy to anyone?

Any and all comments that will help are welcomed.

Here is a list of what i have so far.

2004 GT vert with almost 38k. She is a daily driver for now.

DenseCharger CAI
Stock MAF
BBK 70mm T/B
TrickFlow Plennum
Stock headers
Mac Prochamber with cats (I live in CA )
Mac Cat back
FRPP Aluminum D/S
FRPP 3.73's
And a diablo Predator with dyno tune.

MM Sub frame's
Cobra brake kit in the front and rear.
MM LCA's VERY soon.

I was going to stay n/a till after i finish school, wait till i get on an agency and i would be good to go. But this sounds like a deal too good to pass up.
i would have to barrow a little bit from my oh so wonderful g/f to pull this off.

Sorry for the long write up but this would be a huge investment for me and i need all the advice and input you guys can offer. I would need to make the final decsion with in like in day or two.

Thanks SN! :SNSign:

Disturbed One · May 23, 2006

Well for one I'd look to see what all is included in the kit he has, where did he buy the kit from, what's his reasoning for selling it??? A lot of the times when it's too good to be true it usually is. Is there something missing.

Don't forget about dyno tuning to make sure that everything is in order once it's installed if you get that far.

99svtdlb · May 23, 2006

I would definitely make sure it's a complete kit for that price. It is a great deal so do your homework first. As of the procharger, I have one that runs 10psi with a 3-core intercooler. I love it. With a Lund tune, I am running 411 rwhp on my 00 GT. Boost kicks in around 2500 rpms which is nice with 3:73s in the rear. Also, the oil change is easy and you don't have to tap into your oil system. The only thing you might not like is the sound. It is very loud for a supercharger, which I personally like. That depends on you though.

Overall, I would recommend a procharger.

godspeedX · May 23, 2006

For the price, I wouldn't pass it up. Let's say your getting a kit that does not include injectors and a tune up. It's still to your benefit to take up the offer, unless it doesn't come with atleast the 2-core intercooler. Personally, even if it came with the chip, I wouldn't rely on it, and I'd go with a custom dyno tuned chip. I've had mine for about 1 1/2yr. with the setup and haven't had any problems with the engine or oil changes, as long as you don't constantly abuse the car. ProCharger's do tend to release a little oil so don't freak out if you see oil build up around the supercharger at times. I've seen this on my own and on plenty of others including GTO's and Camaros. As far as oil changes, the P1SC has a bronze drain plug underneath it, no need to take the whole supercharger off, you just have to order the oil directly from Procharger and they run about $35 for 3 bottles/3 oil changes that require change out every 3 month.

Results are night and day, your 3.73 gears work pretty good if your running with drag radials but from dead stop you'll need to have good control of the clutch all the way to 3rd gear. I bought mine for $2,800 used for 6month, and I'm happy with it, although I still needed a custom tune, and a larger mass air meter. I'd say, just go with your gut instinct, but it's defintely worth it, and it puts out good power and torque numbers.

01Steeda · May 23, 2006

it is definatly worth it if the major components are there and in working order. just remember with a used kit you might have to replace some minor items that are worn or missing. i am having t wait on a pulley rom vortech... gonna have to check everything prior to install

Bullitt03 · May 23, 2006

If its a whole kit its definately worth and i dont regret getting mine since im making a little over 450 to the ground and its definately louder than most setup and would recomend it

Good luck

lvmustanggt · May 23, 2006

OMG price is too good to be ture cause I am looking for p-1sc model too.
If I spend that much money I was every one to hear it and fear me. HAHA

Gearbanger 101 · May 23, 2006

lvmustanggt said:
OMG price is too good to be ture cause I am looking for p-1sc model too.
If I spend that much money I was every one to hear it and fear me. HAHA

Could you say that again.....in English this time?

four six · May 23, 2006

Gearbanger 101 said:
Could you say that again.....in English this time?

+1

04gtdrop · May 23, 2006

ok, cool. thanks guys. I want to go see this kit in person. If everything looks good then i will buy it.

Procharger guys, thanks for chiming in. I didnt know how loud they were. But for that price i can put up with it.

Does anyone know what these things retail for?

The guys that are putting down over 400 hp with these setup's. Do you have any internal mods or do you have the basic bolt on's and the s/c?

One last Q, what are some signs of this thing being used, reman'd vs. brand new? Just want to make sure he is not pulling a fast one on me.

Gearbanger 101 · May 23, 2006

04gtdrop said:
Does anyone know what these things retail for?

Brand new, about $4,000

04gtdrop said:
One last Q, what are some signs of this thing being used, reman'd vs. brand new? Just want to make sure he is not pulling a fast one on me.

Rusty parts, scuff marks on the brackets bolt holes from previously being bolted on, wear marks on the idler pulleys, wrench marks on the bolts. It's pretty easy to see if this things ever been out of the box.

DropTopPony · May 23, 2006

Is it a P1SC? does procharger still sell that lower level blower anymore...the one that had the ceramic ball bearings and issues. Make sure its not that one. BD9 or 11 or 600 one of those.

FivePointStang · May 23, 2006

If you dont get it for some reason, let me know. I will buy it.

.......but it sounds like you will get it if everything sounds good on it.

HAVE FUN!

DBMSTNG · May 23, 2006

if it's a D1sc, yes, if it's a P1sc, no.

tontot77 · May 23, 2006

bad deal sounds like...

04gtdrop · May 24, 2006

I'm supposed to go see it in person some time this week. I'm going to snap a few pics with my cell phone also.

But how do i know which one it is? I think he said it was bought recently, like within the past month or two.

Which model do i want to stay away from? which one has problems?

I hope this isn't some b/s. Cuse i would love to put a blower on my stang!!!!!

wannabe2000GT · May 24, 2006

the P-1SC is NOT THAT BAD. they dont have as many problems as people say. lots of people run that setup with no problems. the only thing iv heard about them is the seal leaking oil.

GoBabyVroommm · May 24, 2006

If you can get a everything for that price go for it. I'm gettin my D1SC with everything down to the tune for $3000 dollars. I would have it on my car by now but I just bought a Ram 1500 for work. GGrrrr.

Good luck with the deal man.

DropTopPony · May 24, 2006

04gtdrop said:
I'm supposed to go see it in person some time this week. I'm going to snap a few pics with my cell phone also.

But how do i know which one it is? I think he said it was bought recently, like within the past month or two.

Which model do i want to stay away from? which one has problems?

I hope this isn't some b/s. Cuse i would love to put a blower on my stang!!!!!

Its the P600 you don't want...thats the old unit but it is still being sold in some places. If its a P1sc thats the newer version.

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