If I could do it again, I would go pushrod...Problem around here is drive safe emission tests every 2 years and my car doesn't qualify under hot rod clause till next year..I'd go with 408...deadlast said:well, i just totaled my 94 5.0. after looking around for a new car, i came across several sn95 4.6l in my price range (around 6000). what i would like to know is, how much harder is the 4.6 to work with, its aftermarket, reliability vs the pushrod, and other general comparisons b/w the two.
not to hi-jack the thread or anything, but i noticed your name is kauffman, from york springs pa. is that kauffman as in kauffmans motorsports in dillsburg?Chris00GT said:I have both a 00gt and a 92 LX notch. I like the 92 because the parts are cheeper and easier to find used parts. I like the 00 because it's newer and more comfortable to drive every day. To work on both have there pro's and con's.
A 400hp 5.0L and a 400hp 4.6L are gonna cost you about the same amount of money.B's 96 GT said:i'm looking at getting a 5.0 but i have a 4.6. i want a car that is fun to drive and not terribly expensive to get up to the 400 area. mine will be a nice day and summer car. i have a 96 so that is the only reason i'm considering the 5.0 really. plus you can add a bigger motor and not have the problems as you do with the 4.6, or least that is what i've heard.
helty said:not to hi-jack the thread or anything, but i noticed your name is kauffman, from york springs pa. is that kauffman as in kauffmans motorsports in dillsburg?
Gearbanger 101 said:A 400hp 5.0L and a 400hp 4.6L are gonna cost you about the same amount of money.
Try making 400rwhp with a blower alone on a stock 5.0L though. With the crappy stock E7TE heads/intake you're not even gonna come close. You need blower and bolt ons to see that number with a 5.0L......which is where the extra cost is endured, where with some creating shopping, you'll see 400rwhp with just a blower alone on a 4.6L. Like I said....it's gonna cost you about the same amount of money.BooWFO said:Also blowers are ALOT cheaper for 5.0's my buddy was looking at vortech complete kit 1800 try doing that for a mod..
But if you follow the build up the engine first then add the power adder 5.0 is cheaper. Plus each step of the way is cheaper. Also just my quick mental calc would put a 5.0 with a base vortech at what 350ish at the crank right. and the same basic kit would put a mod at what 360ish at the crank right. Oh and if you don't mind used parts a 5.0 is WAY cheaper just from there been way more of them. Now going 400rwhp is going to cost no matter which route is taking, however if someone is more concerned about been able to build to a certain level on a budget I don't see how the mod will win. Also if they go with a Foxbody the weight and readily availble parts is the way to go. Now if a newer style is more their liking then yes the mod is the way to go. Also if the original poster was to go with the 96-98 like posted won't he in fact need to do a PI swap and since there will be the increase in compression FI would then force either fly cutting the pistons or changing them correct? Also that is a 7-9yrold car how much additionall work is there between a 7-9 and a 11-10 yr old car?Gearbanger 101 said:Try making 400rwhp with a blower alone on a stock 5.0L though. With the crappy stock E7TE heads/intake you're not even gonna come close. You need blower and bolt ons to see that number with a 5.0L......which is where the extra cost is endured, where with some creating shopping, you'll see 400rwhp with just a blower alone on a 4.6L. Like I said....it's gonna cost you about the same amount of money.
The point of this comparison wasn’t which car is lighter, or which body style someone liked better. It was a comparison between the two in cost to make it to 400rwhp. I didn’t say the mod motor would win, I said that reaching 400rwhp with each vehicle would cost about the same thing (give or take a couple of hundred in either direction). You can build the 5.0L up with better heads and supporting parts if you wish…and many people do elect to do that, but the fact of the matter remains, that by doing so, you’re continually adding to the overall cost. The stock 99-up Modular heads/Intake are head over heels better than the 5.0L’s E7TE’s hardware and even rival that of most of the mid-level entries of the 5.0L’s aftermarket. Even the pre-’99 NPI head castings flow every bit as well as an off the shelf set of GT-40’s. More than enough to support over 400rwhp. You’re going to need to make minor modifications to the intake and exhaust end of either car to see the mark, but those costs are relative between either car. If you want to throw used parts into the mix, they’re starting to get pretty similar in comparison there as well. I paid $600.00 Canadian + shipping right to my door for a set of barely used (16,000miles) 2001 PI heads, cams and intake. Can you say the same for a used H/C/I combination for an OHV?BooWFO said:But if you follow the build up the engine first then add the power adder 5.0 is cheaper. Plus each step of the way is cheaper. Also just my quick mental calc would put a 5.0 with a base vortech at what 350ish at the crank right. and the same basic kit would put a mod at what 360ish at the crank right. Oh and if you don't mind used parts a 5.0 is WAY cheaper just from there been way more of them. Now going 400rwhp is going to cost no matter which route is taking, however if someone is more concerned about been able to build to a certain level on a budget I don't see how the mod will win. Also if they go with a Foxbody the weight and readily availble parts is the way to go. Now if a newer style is more their liking then yes the mod is the way to go. Also if the original poster was to go with the 96-98 like posted won't he in fact need to do a PI swap and since there will be the increase in compression FI would then force either fly cutting the pistons or changing them correct? Also that is a 7-9yrold car how much additionall work is there between a 7-9 and a 11-10 yr old car?
BooWFO said:Now if you know where I can pickup a complete blower setup for a mod for less than 3000 please share because I would REALLY like to be blown. hehehe I just love saying that.
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