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Mustangj

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Looking to do some solo II, open road racing and open track day events in the II. When I restored/rebuilt the car I put in a rebuilt manual steering rack in so I could free up some horse power and reduce complexity of running power steering pump and lines. How many turns lock to lock is a II manual rack? feels like 100 I have been looking at flaming river racks. Has any one here used the flaming river rack or other aftermarket rack?
 
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MVMA specs show the stock II manual rack at 4.5 turns (stop to stop) and 3.0 for the power unit.
 

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I run a NAPA new Pinto manual rack, and the 4.4 turns lock to lock sounds about right.
 
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My pump went out on mine when I had it on the road. I took the belt off and ran without it for 4 years. It handled fine. Only difficult time was in parking lots. Once you're moving 5 mph it wasn't bad at all.
 
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I am running my power rack with an external "eclipse" fluid resevior and no pump. fluid circulates and steers like a dream
 
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Mustangj said:
Looking to do some solo II, open road racing and open track day events in the II.
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I still say we will have to convoy out to do the Targa NewFoundland some year!!!
 

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The best thing I discovered about manual steering was when I installed the stroker motor with the standard passenger car oil pan. (because the II pan will not clear a main-stud girdle) I don't think that the factory power steering rack will fit with a standard oil pan, because even the much skinnier manual rack on my car is very close to touching the pan. (The other issue with the pan was the starter, which I solved by installing a mini-starter)
 
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chromehorse11 said:
I still say we will have to convoy out to do the Targa NewFoundland some year!!!
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That is my ultimate dream! (think one lap of america by the ocean!)
 
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77sleeper said:
I am running my power rack with an external "eclipse" fluid resevior and no pump. fluid circulates and steers like a dream
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"Eclipse" as in like Mitsubishi??? If so what year? We have some totaled diamond star cars at work. Have any photos? As you may have noticed steering trivia is lost on me, how many turns lock to lock is a fox 5.0l Mustang? They feel like what I want. If your not careful the rear end of the Mach catches up with the front.
 
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yup first gen, the car is burried in the garage for the summer, but I may have a pic somewhere, I will look.

now is the time of year you canuks get to rub it in, it was a little over 45* C today here
 
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77sleeper said:
yup first gen, the car is burried in the garage for the summer, but I may have a pic somewhere, I will look.

now is the time of year you canuks get to rub it in, it was a little over 45* C today here
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What is it like a can with some fittings on it or something?
 
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here you go
 
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A can with two hose barbs and a cap! Thanks for diggin' the photo up for me. Many newer cars have remote reservoir like that, I will have to score one from work. Too bad I sold my power rack though....
 
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I checked into the price of a rebuilt power rack today. Would you believe $167.00 + 50.00 core? I figured it would be big pimpin' money. Pretty resonable really. Are the outer tie rods different between manual and power?? I kinda remember they were, I forget.
 

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Mustangj said:
I checked into the price of a rebuilt power rack today. Would you believe $167.00 + 50.00 core? I figured it would be big pimpin' money. Pretty resonable really. Are the outer tie rods different between manual and power?? I kinda remember they were, I forget.
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I thought they were the same rod ends, but a call to a parts store should tell you one way or the other.
 
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I thought they were the same rod ends, but a call to a parts store should tell you one way or the other.
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Yeah...if you can find a parts store that knows they made Mustangs between '74 and '78.
 

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They are different, I found that out when I got my manual rack last year.
 
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