Quadshock/tire problem not normal question

JUICE ONE · Jul 24, 2006

onefstsnake said:
what do you guys use to get those bolts loose on the quads? I was going to flip mine but the bolts wouldnt budge...

I was using a 200+ftlb electric impact gun...

THE NUTS ARE TACK WELDED!!!
When I flipped mine I had to use a 1/2" breaker bar w/ a cheater pipe and lots of bad words. Sometimes you have to talk sh-t to your car.

$uperstang · Jul 24, 2006

Take the damn things off and throw them out!

Kabuki_notch · Jul 24, 2006

$uperstang said:
Take the damn things off and throw them out!

agreed, I removed mine

QDRHRSE · Jul 24, 2006

No matter what control arms you get- the rear will sway from side to side a bit. The only real cure is a panhard bar. The lateral movement of the axle is an old 5.0 problem/trait. You would not belive the difference a a panhard bar would make.

mob · Jul 24, 2006

Alright thanks guys, im going to see how much money I get this wednesday on my paycheck and hopfully will have money for control arms. Ill try and take the quads off tomorrow, didnt get a chance today.

Shakerhood · Jul 25, 2006

$uperstang said:
Take the damn things off and throw them out!

Bad Idea!!!!!!!!!!

RYC CUKR · Jul 25, 2006

When you get a set of control arms I would probably take quads off, drive the car for a while to make sure that you don't have any wheel hop issues. Just keep them in a box in the garage or something incase you do need them again. I keep most of the parts I take off my Mustang just in case.

$uperstang · Jul 25, 2006

Shakerhood said:
Bad Idea!!!!!!!!!!

No GOOD IDEA! Trust me with Megabite Jr. upper and lower control arms there is no need for quads on my car! With stock control arms it is good to keep them but once you get heavy duty control arms toss the suckers out.

Shakerhood · Jul 25, 2006

$uperstang said:
No GOOD IDEA! Trust me with Megabite Jr. upper and lower control arms there is no need for quads on my car! With stock control arms it is good to keep them but once you get heavy duty control arms toss the suckers out.

Yes, BAD IDEA. Each Mustang reacts different to parts added to the rear and the Quads do more than just stop wheel hop, they also limit axle rotation. People fall for the MYTH that they can just toss their quads as soon as they put some LCAs on. You should check your 60 Ft Times with and without them too.

mob · Jul 25, 2006

I wont have a problem with them off, Im not going to be racing, I dont need traction right now. My car is my daily driver, so ill just take the quads off till I cant afford lca's and then ill take it to the track.

Shakerhood · Jul 25, 2006

Even if you dont go to the track, they limit excessive axle rotation.

mob · Jul 26, 2006

hmm well right now the tire being shreaded is alittle bigger of a problem, if the wheel hop or axle rotation is bad when the new lac's are on ill look into buying new quad shocks, just some factory replacment stuff.

$uperstang · Jul 26, 2006

Shakerhood said:
Even if you dont go to the track, they limit excessive axle rotation.

Dude they don't do Sh It!

Shakerhood · Jul 27, 2006

$uperstang said:
Dude they don't do Sh It!

Yeah, your right, why would Ford spend the Money installing something on the Mustangs!

mob · Jul 27, 2006

By Maximum Motorsports

Stop wheel hop
Ford’s solution for reducing wheel hop was the addition of the quad shocks (the two horizontal shocks mounted behind the rear axle). They reduce wheel hop by dampening axle wind-up. Axle windup is caused by two independent deflections: the control arms, and the rubber bushings. Deflection of the control arms is eliminated because the MM arms are over three times stiffer than the stock control arm. Deflection of the soft stock rubber bushings is eliminated by our unique bushing designs. These designs are the result of extensive motion analysis of what actually occurs when the rear suspension moves over bumps, and during body roll. Installing MM’s rear lower control arms eliminates the primary cause of wheel hop, which is the deflection of the stock lower control arms and their bushings. While there are other factors besides the compliance of the control arm bushings that cause wheel hop, the MM arms usually reduce axle wind-up enough to allow removal of the factory quad shocks.

Seems like Ford spent more money adding quadshocks because of their cheap control arms, not saying quadshocks dont do anything or arent needed, or their only use is to help the stock control arms, but I dont think Maximum Motorsports would lie to sell a product.

stang8urimport · Jul 27, 2006

I had the same basic thing happen in my 83, Nick. It dipped real hard to the back right.. turned around.. went back to work and put it on the lift... The pass side upper control arm to axle bolt CAME OUT. lol. Caused lots of sloppiness in the rear. Get under there and MAKE SURE evey bolt is still there.

Shakerhood · Jul 27, 2006

mob said:
Seems like Ford spent more money adding quadshocks because of their cheap control arms, not saying quadshocks dont do anything or arent needed, or their only use is to help the stock control arms, but I dont think Maximum Motorsports would lie to sell a product.

So much more contributes to Wheel Hop than just Compliance in the LCAs, Compliance in the UCAs matters too, and for those of you that have NO Compliance in the Upper or Lower Control Arms are the Ones that ask why their Torque Boxes are ripped out of their cars, the rest of us have Compliance, if you have Compliance Anywhere in the Control Arm Bushings, you have the Potential for Wheel Hop that a Good Set of Quad Shocks would help Reduce or Eliminate.

$uperstang · Jul 27, 2006

Shakerhood said:
So much more contributes to Wheel Hop than just Compliance in the LCAs, Compliance in the UCAs matters too, and for those of you that have NO Compliance in the Upper or Lower Control Arms are the Ones that ask why their Torque Boxes are ripped out of their cars, the rest of us have Compliance, if you have Compliance Anywhere in the Control Arm Bushings, you have the Potential for Wheel Hop that a Good Set of Quad Shocks would help Reduce or Eliminate.

I officialy nominate you as the Quad Shocks spokesperson!!!!

fidstang · Jul 27, 2006

My dad works for Ford(Focus)plant in Wayne, MI. He has LOTS of friends, one in the SVT department. Ford engineers scrambled to find a solution to wheel hop. Quad shocks were born for just that reason. Upper arms control side to side movement and Lowers handle the up and down, all were engineered to have some articulation, ie...rubber bushings. Have fun, enjoy.

mob · Jul 27, 2006

Well I figured it out guys, took my wheel off. Nick was right, the upper control arm bolt was competley gone. Jake Lamotta installed my new upper control arms a year ago, to the date. I told myself I would never go back to them because of all the times they screwed me over, and this gives me more reason not to return, but I went back so they could fix it, if they wouldnt do it for free I was gonna do it myself but it would have been a pain lining up the rear. So to my surprise it seemed like they actually cared this time, he was surprised the bolt had come off after only a year, so they put it on the lift, and in 10 minutes I was on my way home. WOW what a different car, I guess as the bolt was slowly coming out the car was getting worse and i didnt realise it, It was SOOOOO sloppy, I hit it a few times on the way home, and the car flew straight and actually put me back in my seat again, it wouldnt do that before, and I drove alittle more and did a uturn and slide around it and the tires actually spun, before when I would try to slide around a turn, the car would just rev really high and slowly go around and i would get what I didnt realise till now was bad wheel hop. So if your suspension feels sloppy, get uca's haha.

So good news shakerhood, quads are staying on haha, and when i get lca's ill keep them on.

Heres some pics of the damage, you can just imagine what the inside of the tire looks like , damn lamotta performance.

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