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Shadow 1

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I have a 85 hatchback and I was thinking about doing a conversion on it when I rebuild it. I think I got the rear figured out but what about the fronts, I heard I can put on spindles from a 94-95 stang but I'm unsure what all's needed. Anyone got any idea's?
 

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Yes, spindles from an SN95 will work, but you will need a spacer for the ball joint.

Do a search for "5 conversion", you should find a ton of info.
 
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You will also need '87+ struts since your car is an '85. The '94+ spindles dont bolt up to pre-'87 struts.
 

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go here ........is all the info youll need!


http://svo73mm.cjb.net/
 

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Thanks for all the info guys, I'll be sure to check them out!
 

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The front is a breeze. You will also need to turn your tie rods out to get them to hook to the spindles. They take about 17-18 turns outward, this way you can get it to the alignment shop like the next day! You will also need the 94-98 calipers, brackets, rotors, and rubber flex hoses. You can also use 99-04 PBR's, they will work too. You will need to grind a small spot on the spindle for the PBR's...you will see where they rub when you try to bolt them down. Mine also required a union on the passenger side to get it to thread in the hard line.
 

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SVT32VDOHC said:
The front is a breeze. You will also need to turn your tie rods out to get them to hook to the spindles. They take about 17-18 turns outward, this way you can get it to the alignment shop like the next day! You will also need the 94-98 calipers, brackets, rotors, and rubber flex hoses. You can also use 99-04 PBR's, they will work too. You will need to grind a small spot on the spindle for the PBR's...you will see where they rub when you try to bolt them down. Mine also required a union on the passenger side to get it to thread in the hard line.
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Does the brake booster and stuff need to be changed out as well?
 

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SVT32VDOHC said:
The front is a breeze. You will also need to turn your tie rods out to get them to hook to the spindles. They take about 17-18 turns outward, this way you can get it to the alignment shop like the next day! You will also need the 94-98 calipers, brackets, rotors, and rubber flex hoses. You can also use 99-04 PBR's, they will work too. You will need to grind a small spot on the spindle for the PBR's...you will see where they rub when you try to bolt them down. Mine also required a union on the passenger side to get it to thread in the hard line.
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Do not use 94-98 front calipers as they are heavy and single piston and are not much of an upgrade over stock Fox calipers, at the very least go with the 99-04s
 

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Congrats on your excellent taste in cars (four-eye).

The fronts are easy. The rears are the tricky thing. Master cylinder and proportioning valve replacement/revision is required, etc. Booster stays. See the link twolo posted above - it really is the definitive source for all Fox brake tinkering.
 

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f4fntm said:
Congrats on your excellent taste in cars (four-eye).

The fronts are easy. The rears are the tricky thing. Master cylinder and proportioning valve replacement/revision is required, etc. Booster stays. See the link twolo posted above - it really is the definitive source for all Fox brake tinkering.
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Thank you, I like the four eyes. So the master cylinder needs to be changed even though the rears stay drums, interesting. I'm going to have to re-read that website, I must have missed it. Thanks for the heads up. Oh, I like that website. Congrats to whoever wrote it.
 

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Shadow 1 said:
So the master cylinder needs to be changed even though the rears stay drums, interesting. :
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My car started as a 4cyl so I did change the booster and master from the V-8 car. But I did leave the stock 4cyl proportioning valve. If my car was an original V-8, obvisouly I would have left it.

I don't know if the PBR set up will work with the 85 stuff, it's been a while since I ave looked at an 85 booster. If it is the big one I would say it would work. You will just have to give er the old trial and error method.
 
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You dont need to change the master cylinder if youre sticking with drums in the rear.
 

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SVT32VDOHC said:
My car started as a 4cyl so I did change the booster and master from the V-8 car. But I did leave the stock 4cyl proportioning valve. If my car was an original V-8, obvisouly I would have left it.

I don't know if the PBR set up will work with the 85 stuff, it's been a while since I ave looked at an 85 booster. If it is the big one I would say it would work. You will just have to give er the old trial and error method.
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It's a pretty small looking booster.
 

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PJB said:
You dont need to change the master cylinder if youre sticking with drums in the rear.
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Cool, thanks. I took a look at it late last night and I might have to change it out anyway, my car was under water before I got it and it looks questionable. Do the lines have to be changed out as well?
 

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You know, I just thought of something. If you use ranger rear axles will it have the same 5-lug bolt pattern as the front conversion?
 

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yea it will.. im going full 96 on all corners with 00 GT calipers and the like on my 85 GT..
 

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Bad92GT said:
yea it will.. im going full 96 on all corners with 00 GT calipers and the like on my 85 GT..
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Thats cool, how much do you figure the conversion is?
 
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Shadow 1 said:
You know, I just thought of something. If you use ranger rear axles will it have the same 5-lug bolt pattern as the front conversion?
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Yes. Mustang wheels fit on Rangers. Theres several Rangers around here with Mustang wheels too.
 

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PJB said:
Yes. Mustang wheels fit on Rangers. Theres several Rangers around here with Mustang wheels too.
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Cool, thank's!
 

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no idea for the consumer.. i work at a junkyard, so i happened to find it all out there and snagged it all.. i have about 80 dollars in new lines and pads in it.. thats all
 
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