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cliff88145

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My alternator is out so should I up grade or get a new stock one? I don't have a sound system but I do have a E-fan. Thanks
 
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BullittAndy

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Yes upgrade. Search the threads to see how. It will make you feel better and you can then add the stereo that you now don't have!
Good luck!

To make the swicth easier for me i bought a junkyard alternator for $50. That way the rpice difference was minimal.
 

glowstang93

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As long as you have some time, especially if its not your dd right now, go for the upgrade. You will be so happy with yourself for doing it.
 

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Here's websites with pictures of the 3G installation...

See http://www.geocities.com/smithmonte/Auto/3G_130A_Alternator_Upgrade.htm - all the tech data you could ever want to know
OR
http://www.mustangcentral.net/tech/alternator.html - excellent pictures of installation

Use these sites for information on the right way to do the wiring. Some people will tell you that you can skip the wiring upgrade, but it will catch up with you sooner or later. A fire in the wiring harness is ugly and expensive.

Under no circumstances connect the two 10 gauge black/white wires to the 3G alternator. If the fuse blows in the 4 gauge wire, the two 10 gauge wires will be overloaded to the point of catching fire and burning up the wiring harness.

The secondary power ground is between the back of the intake manifold and the driver's side firewall. It is often missing or loose. It supplies ground for the alternator, A/C compressor clutch and other electrical accessories such as the gauges. Any car that has a 3G alternator needs a 4 gauge ground wire running from the block to the chassis ground where the battery pigtail ground connects.

Electric fan = 3G alternator if you want long life & reliability from your car.
The electric fan saves some HP. The stock fan's parasitic drag runs from 7-12 HP depending on who you talk to. The electric fan uses about 1/2 HP of power from the electrical system.

Figure this:
Ignition system & computer = 12 amps
Fuel pump = 12 amps
Exterior lights = 15 amps
Fan (heater or A/C) = 15 amps (can run between 5-25 amps depending on setting)
Radio & instruments = 10 amps
Wipers = 10 amps

That's grand total of 74 amps from a 65 amp alternator. Talk about overdrawn at the bank!

See WWW.partsexpress.com for the fuse & fuse holder.
Fuse @ $3.90 each (need one) http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=071-952

Fuseholder @ $5.80 each (need one) http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=263-630

4 gauge black wire @ $1.25 a foot (use string to lay out routing & determine length) http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=100-196

4 gauge red wire @ $1.25 a foot (use string to lay out routing & determine length) http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=100-194

4 gauge ring crimp terminals (package of 5) $3.25. http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=095-584

3/4 “ Black heat shrink tubing, 4ft length, $3.39
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshow...number=082-058

3/4 “ Red heat shrink tubing, 4ft length, $3.39
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshow...number=082-064

Pre-fab 4 gauge cables with lugs already on the ends are available in most auto parts stores. Look for the starter switch to starter cables.

I am very careful to maintain backwards compatibility, so I did things a little different. The white/black stator wire gets the insulation stripped back about 1 1/2" in the middle of the wire & cut in the middle of the stripped area. Then a short length of white wire with a 1/4" slip on female spade connector gets spliced on to the white/black wire. Slide on enough 1/4" heat shrink tubing on the white wire to cover the solder splice you are going to make. Next all 3 wires get soldered together & the heat shrink tubing gets shrunk. When you finish, the white/black wire looks like a "Y" with 1 white arm and 1 white/black arm. I left the black/orange wires connected to the original plug and did not do anything to them. When you are done, the original plug still has all the wires connected to it and they are still functional. The extra white pigtail wire that you spliced, soldered in & covered with heat shrink tubing is just long enough to plug into the 3G without much left over.

I ran the 4 gauge wire under the front of the engine next to the 4 gauge wire for the starter power feed.
It came up the same path as the fuel injector supply lines, and gets bolted to the power output lug of the 3G alternator. The 125 amp fuse is mounted on a plastic panel bolted to the stock ignition coil mounts. One of side of the fuse has a 4 gauge wire connected to the battery side of the starter solenoid & the other to the 4 gauge power feed wire for the alternator.

I had some 1" silicone aircraft heat shield tubing that I fed the 4 gauge alternator power feed wire through and tie wrapped & clamped it in place with some aircraft cushion clamps. That provided the wire extra protection from road debris and rocks. Some heater hose could be used to do the same thing.

Apart from the grinding I did on the mount bracket, there wasn't much to it. Rather than just grind a notch, I ground the whole web back to the thick part of the bracket. It looks much more factory that way.
 

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if nothing eles do it so you can put it in your sig
 

HISSIN50

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Another vote for you gotta do it (even if you DIDN'T have the E-fan). It's a better design.

I followed JR's parts list and it worked well. Anthony recently did a thread about his install and it turned out real nice too (using a different type of fuse holder, etc).


Good luck.
 

glowstang93

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Thanks again Hissin50. I couldn't have done it without everyone's help, especially jrichker. Any questions ask away, we are all here to help. Here is the link to the my last link on the 4awg wiring http://eleanor.pro3i.com/showthread.php?t=650847

Here is the link to Napa fuse holder
http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470&LineCode=BK&PartNumber=7821143&Description=Fuse+Holder
 

RYC CUKR

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Since you have to replace it anyway go ahead and upgrade it to the 3G.
 
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310stanger

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theres been lots of threads about 3g alernator upgrades. now if your gonna upgrade and quickness is a priority, it doesnt get any easier then a powermaster 140 amp. i know they are pricey, i got mine through summit racing. it was simply a matter of removing and replacing the alternator and hooking up a single wire. if u suck at cars u shuold still be able to install one in under an hour an a half.
 
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Get a 3g,stock 75amp is JUNK.
 

cliff88145

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Ok, I just got done putting the Powermaster alternator Black powdercoated that makes 140 amps. It looks good and it was easy.I have not drove my car for a few weeks so it was fun today to drive. Now I am putting in a new MGW shiffter that I got today. Thanks for the help.
 
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310stanger

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now how easy was that powermaster? remover replace. connect a single wire! lol for me it was money well spent.
 
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I'm happy with my upgrade.
 
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