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Quick late model PMGR starter wiring question

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JC6715

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I'm assuming (since there were no instructions included with the starter) that the attached lead on the left is the ignition switched power in, the top big lug is the battery cable in, and the bottom big lug is the ground? Is that correct?

It is a mini starter for 93 Ford 5.0 with 157 tooth flywheel.

Thanks a lot guys.

 

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I'm assuming (since there were no instructions included with the starter) that the attached lead on the left is the ignition switched power in, the top big lug is the battery cable in, and the bottom big lug is the ground? Is that correct?
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No. Mini starters get the battery voltage full time on the large cable (top terminal)

The smaller terminal on the left gets voltage from a relay or as most retrofit kits use, the existing solenoid to pass the "start" voltage.

The bottom large terminal is not ground. It is the power that is going to the starter windings. There should be no connection here.

Ground is accomplished through the engine block.

Here is a thread on wiring mini-starters.

If you can maybe get a better picture from a higher angle so I can see the terminals better?
 

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Tim65GT said:
If you can maybe get a better picture from a higher angle so I can see the terminals better?
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Thanks man, glad I asked, that could have been interesting. I've actually already bookmarked the link you gave me, thanks! You convinced me to run the fender solenoid or relay instead of straight to the starter's solenoid.

Here are some more pictures. The Crack Berry camera isn't working so hot today...

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Here is a diagram if you want to run just a small Bosch type relay. Thats what I'm using.
 

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Tim65GT said:
Here is a diagram if you want to run just a small Bosch type relay. Thats what I'm using.
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Right on, thanks. I'll definitely be doing that. I appreciate the help.
 

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Tim65GT said:
Here is a diagram if you want to run just a small Bosch type relay. Thats what I'm using.
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I know just enough about wiring (i think) to get myself in trouble... Is that 20A fuse going to blow when I try starting the car because it it connected to the same lug as the battery cable?
 

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Is that 20A fuse going to blow when I try starting the car because it it connected to the same lug as the battery cable?
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No, the 20 amp fuse is there to protect the wires and the relay feeding power to the solenoid during cranking, just in case for some reason the solenoid or wires short to ground.
 

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Tim65GT said:
No, the 20 amp fuse is there to protect the wires and the relay feeding power to the solenoid during cranking, just in case for some reason the solenoid or wires short to ground.
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Gotcha, that's what i figured, but thought I'd ask to help better understand the system...

Thanks again.
 
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