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Quick post on differential install

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Not to start a gear ratio debate on what is better, as god knows there are millions in the search directory. Just some info I thought I would share with everyone, as it took me a while to trying to calculate which gear I will be going with. Keep in mind your transmission gear ratios may differ depending on the year. Here is a link to the manual t5 gear ratios on 82-93 t5's and 84-93 aods.
http://www.mustanggt.org/89gt.htm
Anyways to compute I'm using the following tranny gear ratios
First-3.35
Second 1.99
Third-1.33
fourth1.00
fifth- 0.675
reverse 3.15

For computing purposes I decided on using a 225/60/15 tire to find my diameter of 25.6 inches

Now a few quick things
mph=(rpm x tire diameter) divided by (final gear ratio x 336)
and
engine rpm= (mph x final gear ratio x 336) divided by (tire diameter).
note: final gear ratio is calculated by multiplying tranny gear ratio by dif gear ratio
So lets begin
Lets say this is a race application and you are debating 3:73 or 4:10 gears.
Lets also assume you shift at the end of your 5.0L stock power band which I have not been able to find any stock dyno results. I found a spec that "CLAIMS" 225HP @ 4000 rpm. How true this is I can't say.. For my equasions I used the rpm power band starts @ 3400 RPM and drops off @ 4800 RPM..

Now I don't know if this rpm curve is correct-couldn't find any info.
lets say your thinking of a 3:73 gear your final drives would be
first-12.48
second-7.42
third-4.96
fourth-3.73
fifth 2.51
reverse--who in the hell cares?
again with 3:73 shifting @ 4800 rpm from every gear
first gear @ 4800 rpm =29.3 MPH
start second 29.3 MPH @ 2853 rpm shift @ 4800 rpm @ 49.28
third 3200 rpm @ 49.28 shift point 4800 @ 73.7 mph
Fourth start @ 3608 rpm---- shift 4800 @ 98 MPH
fifth start 3228 rpm by the time you hit 4800 in fifth gear you would be going 145 mph
now 4:10 gears final drive
first 13.73
second 8.16
third 5.45
fourth 4.1
fifth 2.77

first gear @ 4800 rpm- 26 mph
second @ 26 mph = 2784 rpm shift 4800 @ 44. 8 mph
third @ @ 44.8 mph= 2410 rpm 4800 @ 67.11
fourth @ 67.11 = 3600 rpm 4800 @ 89 mph
fifth @ 89 mph = 3235 rpms 4800 rpms @ 132

So as you can see with 3.73:1 gear, your shifting closer into the power range, from the end of the rpm power curve, also with the 3:73 you don't run out of engine until about 145 mph, where the 4:10 you run out around 132 mph.
I'm really tired and may have done some numbers wrong. But my point if you are trying to decide this could give you a reference point. The only negative I see for going 3.73:1 is I will have to wait longer to shift @ higher speeds as compared to 4.10:1. Which is almost offset by being closer to the rpm power curve after a shift.--theoratically cancelling out any positives and the taller gear has. There is no doubt looking at the comparisons that the 4.10 will take off the line, possibly slightly helping in over all 1/4 mile speed, depending greatly on where the power band is and how long it would take to get into the power curve @ 2400 rpm) Really a matter of opinion, and I'm not trying to start a debate. Just wanted to put this info out.
 

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Pretty interesting, but with my T-5 and 3.73s I don't think I get even close to 26 mph, 2nd don't really look at my mph so don't really know and my 3rd tops out at 80mph using my stock speedometer(I know it is not exact). I do have the correct speedometer gear. Anyone else have any input here?
 
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holy cow you replyed with quote, now this post looks long as hell j/k

tire size has a huge effect, are you running 225/60/15?
 

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No but the tire size I am running is about the same size as the stock tires. I am running 245/50/16 and my mph doesn't change much when I run my DRs which are 275/50/15.
Yeah replying with quote was probably not too good of an idea.
 
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That tire size is almost exact same as 225/60/15. Here is a calculator
http://www.4lo.com/4LoCalc.htm
its at the bottom of the page.
These numbers are for the tire when measurd off of the vehicle. I will GUARANTEE you if you measure it on a vehicle it will probably show 1-3 inches smaller. Also even a small amount of treadware can make a huge difference. So lets say installed it is now 22.5 instead of 25.6 (MUCH more accurate with a ruler from top to bottom installed on the vehicle.) (4800 x 22.5) divided by (12.48 x 336)
108000/4193.28= 25.75 mph. I would almost be willing to guarantee that it's tire size. the "calculator" isn't a very accurate measurement of actual installed tire diameter. Also 26 mph isnt a lot of speed in first gear when your talking 4800 RPMs.
 
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