Raped by an ebayer

Max Power · Jun 9, 2005

Nobody should ever get raped for shipping on eBay. It is real easy to ask ahead of time, and if you don't like the number, don't bid or negotiate. $23 to cover shipping, packaging, eBay listing fees and PayPal fees is damn reasonable. $11 is too cheap. The guy did you a favor and it looks like you didn't think this out before complaining. That is not the sellers fault, it's yours.

Takt · Jun 9, 2005

I disagree --

It is not the responsibility of the buyer to pay the seller's Ebay listing costs or PayPal costs --- that is "part of doing business". Shipping costs should be shipping (including insurance/tracking) + packaging costs, and that is it. No handling (although this could be debated), no other fee's associated.

To me it all depends on how it is explained in the auction. If someone says actual shipping costs -- then you pay actual shipping.

68rustang · Jun 9, 2005

$23 for shocks is reasonable using ups, $11 is reasonable for USPS.

D.Hearne · Jun 9, 2005

Takt said:
I disagree --

It is not the responsibility of the buyer to pay the seller's Ebay listing costs or PayPal costs --- that is "part of doing business". Shipping costs should be shipping (including insurance/tracking) + packaging costs, and that is it. No handling (although this could be debated), no other fee's associated.

To me it all depends on how it is explained in the auction. If someone says actual shipping costs -- then you pay actual shipping.

I've been thru this very thing with ebay. Yea it can be argued that the other costs ( than shipping) should be carried by the seller, but not in my opinion. I've sold lots of sub-$20 parts and used to charge the buyer for the paypal fees, till ebay said I couldn't. But they DID tell me I was free to tack on "handling" fees to cover my costs. And I've always been up front about the handling fee, and none of my customers have ever complained about them. There are other things that add to a seller's cost than Paypal, packaging, fillers, tape, gas to transport the package to the nearest UPS, USPS, or FedEx office all add up. If I couldn't recoup some of these cost's, I'd just be forced to pack all the parts into my trailer and sell em to the local scrap yard, and wouldn't that be a waste?

CochinoFilipino · Jun 9, 2005

I'm been considering selling some stuff on ebay and I would probably charge at least $50 for shipping and HANDLING, for any item. Most of that would be just for my time and hassle. And that's cheap after considering the time it would take to package the item and the round-trip ride to the FedEx. Of course, I would make the s/h costs very clear in the auction so people could bid accordingly.

You may ask, "Why not just start with a higher price?". Well, If someone local can come over and pick the item up and save me time and hassle, even better.

But I've just been using craigslist.org for the time being. Just Because I think that people would cry about the s/h costs on ebay and give me negative feedback.

68rustang · Jun 9, 2005

$50 for shipping and handling is highway robbery unless the item is large and heavy enough to warrant it. As long as you make it clear in the auction you can charge whatever you want. I will say, stating that shipping is $50 will steer most people away from your items and you will be wasting your time.

There is a difference between covering your costs sticking it to the buyer with no lube.

jerry S · Jun 9, 2005

who has been screwing me is Summit. They have at least $5000 of my dollars just in parts. $4000 was before my car left PA. Since then, Summit has been charging me a $23 overseas handling charge IN ADDITION to the $8.95 standard handling charge for every order I placed plus the overseas postage. I found out last night with my monthly order that this policy is only for people with overseas billing addresses. My billing address on my credit card is Michigan, so Summit has screwed me out of $100 + in unjustified handling charges. Won't even offer me store credit for it either.

68rustang · Jun 9, 2005

What? That post confuses me...

If the parts are being shipped overseas I would expect they will have an overseas handling charge.

My car hauls more ass than a rickshaw driver lugging Jennifer Lopez up a hill

^-- That is funny

CochinoFilipino · Jun 9, 2005

68rustang said:
$50 for shipping and handling is highway robbery unless the item is large and heavy enough to warrant it. As long as you make it clear in the auction you can charge whatever you want. I will say, stating that shipping is $50 will steer most people away from your items and you will be wasting your time.

There is a difference between covering your costs sticking it to the buyer with no lube.

But what if it's a $100 part and you win at $1 ?

But yeah, I think most people would have the same sentiment. That's why I haven't done it.

68rustang said:
,,,,you will be wasting your time.

I'd be wasting my time if I charged any less.

Wow. Great Tech <-sarcasm

68rustang · Jun 9, 2005

That's what a reserve is for. LIke I said as long as you state what you are charging you are free to do whatever you want.

Yeah this probably isn't a tech thread but it's here anyway.

jerry S · Jun 9, 2005

68rustang said:
What? That post confuses me...

If the parts are being shipped overseas I would expect they will have an overseas handling charge.

I found out from a summit cust. service rep who verfied with his supervisor that the overseas shipping charge of $23 is only for credit cards with an overseas billing address. If you have a US billing address on your credit card but ship overseas, you should only pay the $8.95 handling charge + the actual shipping. Under no circumstances should you pay both the domestic + overseas handling. One or the other but not both. I have a US billing address on my credit cards. I have been paying actual shipping + $8.95 domestic handling + $23 overseas handling = ripped off.

Max Power · Jun 9, 2005

Takt said:
I disagree --

It is not the responsibility of the buyer to pay the seller's Ebay listing costs or PayPal costs --- that is "part of doing business". Shipping costs should be shipping (including insurance/tracking) + packaging costs, and that is it. No handling (although this could be debated), no other fee's associated.

To me it all depends on how it is explained in the auction. If someone says actual shipping costs -- then you pay actual shipping.

Nowhere did I say it was his responsability to pay the fees, I just said that the $23 was fair.

What I said was that it was his responsability to find out what the fees are before bidding and complaining about it.

HistoricMustang · Jun 9, 2005

68rustang said:
$50 for shipping and handling is highway robbery unless the item is large and heavy enough to warrant it. As long as you make it clear in the auction you can charge whatever you want. I will say, stating that shipping is $50 will steer most people away from your items and you will be wasting your time.

There is a difference between covering your costs sticking it to the buyer with no lube.

For once perhaps we agree.

HistoricMustang
www.historicmustang.com

84convertablegt · Jun 10, 2005

heres the other end of the spectrum. a seller (me) not doing my homework. i always charge a flatrate shipping charge to anywhere in the us. i estimate the size and weight shipped to cali from ohio. pretty good estimate. im usually only a buck or 2 in either direction, that way a buyer can pay right after they buy the item. well, one time i sold an h pipe. i charged 18.99 shipping, thought that would be enough. well, ups no box, weight, and size added up to 60 dollars in shipping. the auction was was for only 50 dollars. so i payed 60 dollars shipping for me recieving 80 dollars. i got screwed but did it anyway, afterall thats the way it goes in good business.

68rustang · Jun 10, 2005

HistoricMustang said:
For once perhaps we agree.

Okay but only this once

I sold an H-pipe about 6 months ago on ebay. I sent it from Ohio to Florida I think. Same thing no box, banded and shrink wrapped but I only paid something like $25 to ship it.

84convertablegt · Jun 10, 2005

was it ups? because i was shocked when i saw the price. i sent mine out west somewhere from columbus. from now on with big stuff, ill get it quoted first. i learned my lesson!

btr · Jun 10, 2005

You have to be careful. A lot of Ebay sellers try to make their money off of Shipping and Handling. Always look at the cost and be very suspicious if they do not say anything. Unless they say, "exact shipping" I email them.

68rustang · Jun 10, 2005

My favorite was when I bought a flywheel on ebay I won the flywheel for $2.00. When I placed my bid the calculator said shipping to my house was going to be something like $15.00. When the seller sent me the invoice shipping was $34.00. He said the flywheel was 35 pounds and packaged very carefully. It was marked as 10lbs when I received it and was in nothing more than a cardboard envelope. The good part is the flywheel was listed as used but the one that showed up was a brand new ford part. New steel flywheel for $36.00 isn't bad.

Takt · Jun 13, 2005

Max -- you did say fees ... which is why I disagreed with you

Max Power said:
Nobody should ever get raped for shipping on eBay. It is real easy to ask ahead of time, and if you don't like the number, don't bid or negotiate. $23 to cover shipping, packaging, eBay listing fees and PayPal fees is damn reasonable. $11 is too cheap. The guy did you a favor and it looks like you didn't think this out before complaining. That is not the sellers fault, it's yours.

We do agree that it is the buyer's responsibility to find out what the shipping charges are before they bid.

12sec67 · Jun 13, 2005

I bought an f-cam for a friend off ebay and shipping was $30.00, luckly the cam was only $70.00.

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