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Realistic gains for Cobra Intake swap?

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Mustang5L5

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The gain is in the upper RPM.

When i put my cobra intake on, i could definitely feel the car pull harder past 3000RPM.


It still chokes off around 4500-5000 cuz of the stock heads, but i def would never want to go back to the anemic stock manifold.


BTW, i also did a 65mm Tb at the same time
 

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yea my cars the same, it pulls ALOT harder after about 3k rpm's. its great
 

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hmm. well this isnt really helping my decision! I dont know whether it'll be worth doing or not right now.....
 

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Buy it, have the lower ported and wait til you get other mods to install it.

Do that, a 65mm tb, a nice cam and maybe some heads and you will definitely notice it
 

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Mustang5L5 said:
Buy it, have the lower ported and wait til you get other mods to install it.

Do that, a 65mm tb, a nice cam and maybe some heads and you will definitely notice it
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i already have a 70mm tb, stock cam, prof. ported/polished E7's, 76mm MAF, LT's, o/r x and 2 1/2 exhaust. if i get it i will port match and smooth out the runners though... but i want it to be worth the $600+ bucks plus installation hassle. 10 hp is not worth it to me for that, especially when i plan on upgrading in about a year.... i was really hopin to see a gain of over 20 to make it justified.
 

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I say be patient, save your money, or use it for something more useful
 

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87foxstang said:
the camaro was a silverish/grayish LS1, just bumped into him on the uhh highway lol
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Sounds the one I ran on the 3rd gear roll. Silver LS1, friend of a friend, went lower 13s @ 108 the other day.
 

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SVT32VDOHC said:
I would say skip on it this year. Because next year, you will want to do heads or a cam. That means you will have to just take it back off again. I doubt it would improve 20-25HP. The 93 Cobras were 240HP vs. 225 GT/LX's. they had different heads/cam and intake. I know the 93 Cobras are "underrated" but that isn't enough gain for the money without the heads and cam.
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Not to split hairs, but the cobras were underrated at their 240 and the GT's were actually at 215...
 

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fiveohwblow said:
Not to split hairs, but the cobras were underrated at their 240 and the GT's were actually at 215...
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this thread is just making the decision tougher for me! I was under the assumption with all my other mods, my intake is a major restriction right now?am i correct? i was hoping to get some major gains over what a cobra on a stock engine claims.... am i not going to see this happen?
 

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Im not sure, I would think you would see some sort of gain but not like 40 extra horses. Does anybody know how good a bbk ss-i intake is?? I heard the old ones where junk, dont know anything about a newer one.
 

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25thmustang said:
Sounds the one I ran on the 3rd gear roll. Silver LS1, friend of a friend, went lower 13s @ 108 the other day.
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must be him, we went from a 3rd gear roll to
 

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Word: The new Cobra intakes are not very well done and have some problems. First off, the thermostat housing on the Chinese-made piece isn't made properly and requires the distributor be rotated a couple of teeth to clear the t-stat housing. Worse, my new intake caused a HUGE oil consumption problem. When I contacted the FRPP tech line, they said that they knew they had a problem and supplied me with a new oil baffle to install on the bottom of the lower manifold, as well as a new set of gaskets. They didn't charge me anything, but it was a major PITA to have to remove my new manifold and reinstall it. If I had it to do over again, I'd go with an Edelbrock.
 

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Word: The new Cobra intakes are not very well done and have some problems. First off, the thermostat housing on the Chinese-made piece isn't made properly and requires the distributor be rotated a couple of teeth to clear the t-stat housing. Worse, my new intake caused a HUGE oil consumption problem. When I contacted the FRPP tech line, they said that they knew they had a problem and supplied me with a new oil baffle to install on the bottom of the lower manifold, as well as a new set of gaskets. They didn't charge me anything, but it was a major PITA to have to remove my new manifold and reinstall it. If I had it to do over again, I'd go with an Edelbrock.
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are all those issues from the knockoffs? the one i'm getting will be a FRPP if i do.
 

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All new FRPPs are chinese POS's Use an explorer with nearly identical flow values. Where is that one article where they tested all of the major intakes and the cobra/gt40/explorer had the best power band up to 5200+ RPM IIRC.

Look for an explorer intake on ebay!
 

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All new FRPPs are chinese POS's Use an explorer with nearly identical flow values. Where is that one article where they tested all of the major intakes and the cobra/gt40/explorer had the best power band up to 5200+ RPM IIRC.

Look for an explorer intake on ebay!
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yeah i agree with grey. if you're wanting something now, get an explorer. cheaper than actual "cobra" intakes. and it's more than just a 10hp increase. seriously now, only 10hp on an intake swap from a stock intake? i don't think so. you get more than 10hp with a set of shorties and an H/X pipe.
 

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I think it depends on the condition of the car. I did get Ford to send the bigger baffle but never installed it. 2,000 miles later and I havent had to add any oil.

Definately picked up some top end power, I dont feel the sudden loss of power around 5k like I used to. Id say it pulls hard from 3k-5,500 now.

I still need to install the 70mm t/b I bought a while back, Im sure that will help as well. I plan on getting the car dynoed after that.
 

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bloopbloob said:
are all those issues from the knockoffs? the one i'm getting will be a FRPP if i do.
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Just to be clear: The Cobra intake that FRPP is selling is now made in China. It is NOT the same thing as that used on the 1993 Cobra and is the one that I described having the problems with. If you can find an original Cobra intake, by all means buy it. But stay away from the current new ones sold by FRPP.
 

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From my experience, any aftermarket intake swap on a basic bolt on stock long block is a nice "seat of the pants gain". Im not into Dyno numbers, i like seeing my gains on the time slips! What about going ahead and getting the Trick Flow Street Heat intake? You can catch those on eBay for $399 + shipping usually. Its a step above the Cobra imo.
 

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wythors said:
Just to be clear: The Cobra intake that FRPP is selling is now made in China. It is NOT the same thing as that used on the 1993 Cobra and is the one that I described having the problems with. If you can find an original Cobra intake, by all means buy it. But stay away from the current new ones sold by FRPP.
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One of our cars has an original Cobra intake off a wrecked on, and another has an aftermarket FRPP one (from easily 5-6+ years ago). They are different, but neither has showed any problems.
 

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Check out ebay and the coral classifieds for good deals on intakes of all kinds. I think if you go with an explorer/gt-40 setup you will pick up some good midrange and top end...especially with your P&P heads and full exhaust. You can also find really good deals on trickflow and eddy setups on corral for about 350 bucks in great condition. Even if they are in ****ty condition. Parts wash them...then sand and paint them...they could look amazing.
 
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