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Fox Rock Auto price on steering rack correct??

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JD1964

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90sickfox said:
I put a quick ratio rack in my old mustang and would never go back. It's in the new project also.

The feel is things better. Changing lanes is effortless. I can't remember the ratio for sure... but I think it's 2.5 to 1.
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2.5 is not the ratio on these sport racks. 2.5 is the number of steering wheel turns from lock to lock. I thinks the ratio is more like 15:1.

I've got two sport racks (2.5 turn lock to lock), one on the LX and one on the convertible. Got them both at Autozone for roughly $70 each. I have had no trouble with either one of them.
 

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I installed an AC Delco rack from RockAuto about 4 years ago, and I haven't had any issues with it yet. The steering feel is pretty good for a reman rack, much like the original rack. I have had several remans before the Delco, including a cardone, on the car, and they all had 2 things in common - leaks and super light steering feel.

If this one dies, I am going to a SN95 rack.
 

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SN95 is the way to go. If only the MM adapter shaft wasn't so pricey
 

BlakeusMaximus

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Mustang5L5 said:
SN95 is the way to go. If only the MM adapter shaft wasn't so pricey
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So you have to replace the adapter shaft and what else to use the Sn95, tie rods?
 

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Speaking of while my car was on the rack it seems like mine is leaking from this area.
 

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BlakeusMaximus said:
So you have to replace the adapter shaft and what else to use the Sn95, tie rods?
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Fox inner and outer tie rod ends.

If the ones on your current rack are in decent shape, you can remove them from the fox rack and transfer them.

https://www.maximummotorsports.com/Steering-Rack-SN95-to-Fox-swap.aspx
 

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Reddevil91 said:
Speaking of while my car was on the rack it seems like mine is leaking from this area.
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The lines connect just above that area. Maybe a loose fitting is leaking
 

BlakeusMaximus

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Mustang5L5 said:
Fox inner and outer tie rod ends.

If the ones on your current rack are in decent shape, you can remove them from the fox rack and transfer them.

https://www.maximummotorsports.com/Steering-Rack-SN95-to-Fox-swap.aspx
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I do have brand new Moog tie rod ends. I’m pissed that i got bamboozled with the “new” rack I bought. It must have taken the f****r some time to do what he did. He made that thing look brand new man.
 

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Reddevil91 said:
Speaking of while my car was on the rack it seems like mine is leaking from this area.
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Yeah, check the fittings Red.
 

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Mustang5L5 said:
SN95 is the way to go. If only the MM adapter shaft wasn't so pricey
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94-95 rack only?
 

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BlakeusMaximus said:
94-95 rack only?
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Stay away from the 94-98 racks. The 99-04 are the one to get. Cobra preferred but GT ok
 

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Mustang5L5 said:
Stay away from the 94-98 racks. The 99-04 are the one to get. Cobra preferred but GT ok
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Bolts right in? Or do I need sn95 lines? What else do I look for?
 

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Bolts right in.

Read the link I posted. Everything you need to know is in there

https://www.maximummotorsports.com/Steering-Rack-SN95-to-Fox-swap.aspx
 

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Mustang5L5 said:
Bolts right in.

Read the link I posted. Everything you need to know is in there

https://www.maximummotorsports.com/Steering-Rack-SN95-to-Fox-swap.aspx
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Thanks Mike
 
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Ok so now I’m in the predicament of a leaky rack and don’t know what to do. So what did you end up doing @BlakeusMaximus not sure if I should go cheap and just toss a reman in or do what @Mustang5L5 said about doing the sn95 rack. Guess I’m lost on the rack since he stated to stay away from 94-98 and use either 99-04 cobra or gt? These all work ok on our cars as long as you get the MM steering shaft assembly? I have sn95 spindles and ball joints and longtubes now, will there be any difficulty? Sorry just trying to figure this out and make a decision.
 

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I worked at Cardone Industries for 16 years, if you buy a reman rack on Rock its highly likely a Cardone unit.

It's reman back to OE specs, nothing special of course.

There will be a core charge but usually for $20-$30 its probably worth eating the fee then sending it back.
 

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Reddevil91 said:
Ok so now I’m in the predicament of a leaky rack and don’t know what to do. So what did you end up doing @BlakeusMaximus not sure if I should go cheap and just toss a reman in or do what @Mustang5L5 said about doing the sn95 rack. Guess I’m lost on the rack since he stated to stay away from 94-98 and use either 99-04 cobra or gt? These all work ok on our cars as long as you get the MM steering shaft assembly? I have sn95 spindles and ball joints and longtubes now, will there be any difficulty? Sorry just trying to figure this out and make a decision.
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Any sN95 rack is an upgrade to the fox rack. But after dropping $200-300 for the MK adapter, you might as well grab the "best" rack you can.

Realistically it's 99-04 Cobra, with 02-04GT up next.
 

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Reddevil91 said:
Ok so now I’m in the predicament of a leaky rack and don’t know what to do. So what did you end up doing @BlakeusMaximus not sure if I should go cheap and just toss a reman in or do what @Mustang5L5 said about doing the sn95 rack. Guess I’m lost on the rack since he stated to stay away from 94-98 and use either 99-04 cobra or gt? These all work ok on our cars as long as you get the MM steering shaft assembly? I have sn95 spindles and ball joints and longtubes now, will there be any difficulty? Sorry just trying to figure this out and make a decision.
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Haven’t done it yet Devil. My mustang hasn’t been too high on my priority list lately. I’ll probably take Mikes advice. Might as well upgrade it, but i still haven’t ruled out going with a rock auto reman rack yet. I really don’t drive my car much. If I can get the same type of feel and performance as the rack it currently has in it, I might be ok with a reman. Just don’t want to spend a ton of money.
 

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A lot of the feel is simply eliminating the rag joint on the stock steering shaft. Translates to instant movement to the rack and more road feedback. So really a good chunk of the upgrade is that. If your rag joint is trash, I'd at least change it out
 

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Mustang5L5 said:
A lot of the feel is simply eliminating the rag joint on the stock steering shaft. Translates to instant movement to the rack and more road feedback. So really a good chunk of the upgrade is that. If your rag joint is trash, I'd at least change it out
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”Looks” ok. But it is from 88, 30 years old. I’ll definitely change it when I do the rack, or upgrade it.
 
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