Roush charger for GT 500

toolttime · Oct 25, 2006

Who else but roush up to 700hp
Roush builds the engines for the gt500 so they know the limts of it
http://www.roushperformance.com/news.cgi?type=rel_story&sid=137

Uncle Meat · Oct 25, 2006

I was unaware the GT500 motor was built by Roush.

U.M.

bigcat · Oct 25, 2006

it says supporting mods may be necessary. i wonder what exactly they consider supporting mods for 700 hp. it also doe not include a tune for the 700 hp version. i like how vague they were in the press release.

Uncle Meat · Oct 25, 2006

bigcat said:
it says supporting mods may be necessary. i wonder what exactly they consider supporting mods for 700 hp.

Well according to this thread: http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=660228 The stock MAF was almost pegged at 4.95v on the stock tune/setup so there ain't much room to play there without modification of some sort. I would also say at a minimum you'll need fuel some system upgrades.

U.M.

bigcat · Oct 25, 2006

i would assume that they would include some sort of maf upgrade with any of their upgrades if that is the case. as far as fuel upgrades, you would think new injectors would be included in the kit, so maybe fuel pump upgrade? fuel rails?

01stang4.6 · Oct 27, 2006

wow bye bye Z06

Uncle Meat · Oct 30, 2006

01stang4.6 said:
wow bye bye Z06

Better think again. Owners are running LOW 11's with nothing but a set of DR's on the new ZO6. Even just a few minor mods make the ZO6 a monster.

U.M.

'01 Steed · Oct 30, 2006

Uncle Meat said:
I was unaware the GT500 motor was built by Roush.

U.M.

That's because they don't.

However, they did design and engineer it.

Uncle Meat · Oct 30, 2006

[quote='01 Steed]That's because they don't.

However, they did design and engineer it.[/quote]I was unaware that Roush had anything to do with the design of modular 5.4? That engine has been around for a few years now... The heads on the GT500 were lifted from the Ford GT, so what was Rouch's contribution to this whole thing?

U.M.

'01 Steed · Oct 30, 2006

As a matter of fact, Roush designed the Ford GT heads also (along with the entire GT engine). As far as the GT500, they did everything above the short block, including the reduced cam drive, supercharger, intake, cam covers, fuel pump, various chassis components, air cleaner, coolant system....you name it. When you open the hood, you're looking at Roush's design efforts.

Did you know that SVT does not have their own design team? Guess who does that work for them.....that's right...Roush.

Ask an SVTOA member that attended the 100 year anniversary here in Dearborn. If they came to the SVT engineering building, they were given a presentation by the Roush design team, the guys who design for SVT.

'01 Steed · Oct 30, 2006

I should say that you shouldn't get this group of guys confused with the Roush Performance group.....two entirely different entities.

Uncle Meat · Oct 30, 2006

Hmmm.... I knew Saleen built/assembled the Ford GT, but was unaware that Roush designed the top end of the motor. Not that I don't believe you, but do you have any links to substantiate this claim?

U.M.

'01 Steed · Oct 30, 2006

I get this every time. People always pull the BS card on me, and I really don't care. I know what I know. I'll PM you the details.

Uncle Meat · Oct 30, 2006

I didn't pull the BS card, just asked for some substantiating linkage is all because I've never heard this claim before. I did a couple Google searches and came up with nothing. Seems that if Roush was so instrumental in the design of the Ford GT engine and now the GT500 engine there would be more exposure out there. I sure know that I would be tootin' my horn if I were Roush and I had those two successful vehicles under my development belt!

U.M.

'01 Steed · Oct 30, 2006

Understood. I tried to explain this in my PM to you.

'01 Steed · Oct 30, 2006

BTW, just because you can't find the answers at the end of a mouse button doesn't mean it isn't true.

'01 Steed · Oct 30, 2006

toolttime said:
Who else but roush up to 700hp
Roush builds the engines for the gt500 so they know the limts of it
http://www.roushperformance.com/news.cgi?type=rel_story&sid=137

One important fact.....Roush won't give you a warranty with this option. You can only get that with the standard upgrade. That should tell you something.

Uncle Meat · Oct 30, 2006

[quote='01 Steed]BTW, just because you can't find the answers at the end of a mouse button doesn't mean it isn't true.

[/quote]True, but just because someone says it's so doesn't mean it's true either!

Thanks for the PM!

U.M.

'01 Steed · Oct 30, 2006

touche!

RICKS · Oct 30, 2006

SVT is just a badge, it doesn't really represent a crack team of engineers. It's more of a symbol representing a "team" of dedicated Ford resources, engineering, marketing, styling, planning, etc... that worked in concert to make these niche vehicles happen.

The engineering backbone for SVT was SVE, headed by John Coletti. Knowing the huge timelines that new models follow, Coletti probably had a huge hand in the decision-making on the GT500 prior to his stepping down, with the car largely "done" and only testing and refinement and production-tooling/processes remaining to be completed.

The SVE skunkworks under Coletti was located within the Danou Tech Center, space that was shared with Roush, where a ton of drivetrain development, and research, and testing, took place. I have no idea what the relationship is currently, but it's no mystery that SVE and Roush had a very close working relationship. Realize that Jack Roush is involved in MANY areas, some more public than others. He does alot of O.E. outsourced engineering and testing, which as zero-to-little relationship to Roush vehicles, or racing ventures, etc..

I wouldn't be surprised if Roush did alot of the hardcore engineering on the Ford GT driveline, per SVE's directives and oversight. But I'm speculating, it would just make sense though, given the fact they shared that large space together, and worked in concert with each other.

To say that Roush engineered it et al may be giving them a bit too much credit. I think it would be more likely that SVE was the architect, and Roush was the team of "architectural drawers and designers" that worked for and answered to the architect.

All of the heavy engineering and testing documents I've ever seen for the Ford GT were generated by Roush, but that's driveline ONLY.

Saleen was more involved in paint/assembly, with final assembly taking place by Ford at Wixom..

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