Roush S351 engine build specs?

marcus95 · Aug 5, 2007

Y a Ya !

bronco ha! Damn OJ Bronco.

In 99 they switched to an Econoline E350 processor! Woo hoo!

From 96 and up they actually hand made the wiring harness to trigger. I know the guy who made them for Saleen. He can be found and will still make them. The last time I asked he charge one large to do it. That's the price you have to pay to get the 97 upgrade, ..... Saleen style.

joesgt281 · Aug 5, 2007

marcus95 said:
Y a Ya !

bronco ha! Damn OJ Bronco.

In 99 they switched to an Econoline E350 processor! Woo hoo!

From 96 and up they actually hand made the wiring harness to trigger. I know the guy who made them for Saleen. He can be found and will still make them. The last time I asked he charge one large to do it. That's the price you have to pay to get the 97 upgrade, ..... Saleen style.

More good info!
So did the lucky S351 owners get a wiring diagram(s) to go with this unique setup? Are the diagrams available some where?
I can imagine some poor mechanic trying to figure it out without one....lol.

S351R"Animal" · Aug 5, 2007

No one has made a print or diagram. Its alot of work though. I built two more of the harnesses just by copying the spare one I have. I've done two conversions for customers.

SorsCode · Aug 5, 2007

Animal would you be willing to explain the trigger setup??? Thanks.

Danny

S351R"Animal" · Aug 5, 2007

I would but, the blueprint I would have to check is several hundred miles away.

SorsCode · Aug 6, 2007

Thats fine... I just didn't know if they ran a trigger wheel on the back of the balancer or what.. I got my wifes 408W running Coil on Plug. But I wanna see what they did because i'm going to convert to OBD2 this winter hopefully and like to see what saleen done.

joesgt281 · Aug 6, 2007

SorsCode said:
Thats fine... I just didn't know if they ran a trigger wheel on the back of the balancer or what.. I got my wifes 408W running Coil on Plug. But I wanna see what they did because i'm going to convert to OBD2 this winter hopefully and like to see what saleen done.

Wow how the heck do you do coil on plug on a Windsor?
That'd be way cool!
Or is it coilpacks like on a 96-98(?) 4.6?

S351R"Animal" · Aug 6, 2007

Here in a few months when I get settled I can look at my harness and the two 99 cars and give you an answer as to what Saleen did. I was goign to start offering an electronics conversion package for people but, in the end it was more than most would be willing to pay. It was running over $1000 but, it was OBD II compatible. When the EPA finally gets emissions testing everywhere I'll open up shop! LOL!

SorsCode · Aug 6, 2007

joesgt281 said:
Wow how the heck do you do coil on plug on a Windsor?
That'd be way cool!
Or is it coilpacks like on a 96-98(?) 4.6?

Coil on plug like 99+ GT's, I'll get pictures once its back together again.

Animal.. Let me know.. I'm really curious.. Thanks.. BTW the mounts worked out great and the headers

s351rspeedster · Aug 7, 2007

joesgt281 said:
Wow how the heck do you do coil on plug on a Windsor?
That'd be way cool!
Or is it coilpacks like on a 96-98(?) 4.6?

.....it can be down. Check out the fox rod that Joe @ Chiacane did....

http://www.chicanesport.com/products/publish/article_25.shtml

read the second paragraph about electronics under ignition!!

joesgt281 · Aug 7, 2007

NICE FIND!!!!
Here's some pics I pulled:

Looks like they've got some real heavy duty insulation on them but undoubtedly it works!

and i assume this is the trigger....I wonder where this would be sourced from? :

that is some awesome engineering/installation!!!

SorsCode · Aug 7, 2007

Joe's setup is similar to mine but also different.. He has a 302 based engine.. Mine is a 351W based. Now the what you call the trigger is actually a cam sync off an Explorer. His setup is using a 99+ EEC where i'm using the stock 95 GT Auto Computer and a waste spark setup compared to his firing one at a time when mine fires 2. I had to make my Cam sync from a V6 cam sync shaft and install it in a Explorer housing. He has more money than eye so he got his completed quicker then me

I'm wanting to convert mine to what his is this winter. Only reason why I went the way I did was because I didn't have anything to tune it with at the time. Now that I do it will be going OBD2. I'm just wanting to see the S351 96+ setup for the trigger because i'm curious to see what they did.

Danny

S351R"Animal" · Aug 7, 2007

The S351 used a stock distributor but, has a crank trigger wheel and another sensor also. I can't remember off the top of my head what it does. I'll look at my car when I get back home next weekend.

SorsCode · Aug 8, 2007

S351R"Animal" said:
The S351 used a stock distributor but, has a crank trigger wheel and another sensor also. I can't remember off the top of my head what it does. I'll look at my car when I get back home next weekend.

I knew it used a stock distributor. I want to see the trigger wheel setup. Pictures would be great if you don't mind. I'm really interested in the Computer harness to see what they modified. guess I'll wait till ya get home

joesgt281 · Aug 20, 2007

S351R"Animal" said:
The S351 used a stock distributor but, has a crank trigger wheel and another sensor also. I can't remember off the top of my head what it does. I'll look at my car when I get back home next weekend.

Did you get a chance to check out that ignition system Mr. Animal?
Joe

S351R"Animal" · Aug 21, 2007

Sorry, I haven't been able to look at the car. I've been in the process of getting ready to move and change careers. I will be home this weekend and should eb able to crawl under the car. I have to change the oil cooler on it before going to a cruise in next Monday.

joesgt281 · Aug 21, 2007

S351R"Animal" said:
Sorry, I haven't been able to look at the car. I've been in the process of getting ready to move and change careers. I will be home this weekend and should eb able to crawl under the car. I have to change the oil cooler on it before going to a cruise in next Monday.

thank you sir

joesgt281 · Nov 24, 2007

joesgt281 said:
thank you sir

Hey Mr. Animal, were you ever able to check out the EEC/wiring question?
A buddy of mine just started on his V6 to Windsor project and, as to be expected, he got hung up on the wiring issue.

S351R"Animal" · Nov 24, 2007

send me and e-mail to sshugart@hotmail.com this week and I will shoot you some photos. I'm back at home for a few weeks taking some time off working out of my shop.

S351R"Animal" · Nov 24, 2007

I have one brand new NOS harness for a 96-up S351 OBD II if anyone wants one really bad. It includes the alternator, injector, transmission, and computer harness. New before the mods done by Saleen the harnesses retail for over $1100. Add in more for the mods. Total price was a few hundred more when done.

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