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ponypowa2

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Hey all I plan on buying a turbo in the near future, and it appears the hp gains are endless What do you guys think is a safe rwhp for our blocks, I really dont have the extra cash for a cracked block Is 400rwhp too risky.. (keep in mind its a daily driver) Any input would be helpful

 

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400 will probably last a good long time. Make sure the tune is spot on, and keep the R's below 6000.

 

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Rootus said:

400 will probably last a good long time. Make sure the tune is spot on, and keep the R's below 6000.

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I concur...if you only want 400rw then you will be ok.

 

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sweet thx for responses.. im sure ill want more eventually

 

4Jenna

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You will want more a week after u have 400rw...then you'll hit 500rw and want more..lol
Trust me i know the feeling

 

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Eades what block are you using?

 

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Stocker

 

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So you have a 331, h/c with boost and methonal and your block is holding up. How much power you putting down

 

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i wouldn't go much higher than 500 rwhp. thats about 600 fwhp. thats about as much as i would trust a stock bottom end. if you upgraded the crank and pistons then more, but stock internals no way.

 

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I have a forged bottom end/girdle. Anything over 500rw and your at your own risk.
Blue..mine has been fine for 2yrs..and I'm mid 500's w/o the methanol

 

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BlueOvalStangGT said:

So you have a 331, h/c with boost and methonal and your block is holding up. How much power you putting down

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Yes, 331/H/C/I/S-Trim
Alky kit not in yet

 

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if you want safe and reliable.. Then just leave it alone,lol.
Anytime you add power (especially double it) you start to run into problems quicker then you would, if you had left it alone.

that said, 400 is within a safe zone, as long as you dont go hog wild on the timing, and keep the air/fuel within reason (under 12:0)

 

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Eades do you have like a cardomain page or something I could look at to learn more about your car? Sounds like im gonna be copying you reeeeeeaaaaaaaal soon.

 

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No sorry dude..email me with any questions
Eades5point0@msn.com

 

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Im kinda in the same boat.

Im about to start putting the talon back to stock and turboing the mustang. Ill be content with 400whp for a while while I do stuff like swap to an auto (Im building it for drag racing, Ill still have the AWD Talon for manual fun).

Everything Ive read says that 400hp should be alright.

-Dallas J

 

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just to bring this topic back, when we say 400whp are we talking like 390-450 or . once your pushing i guess 500hp. whats the 1st thing to possibly go...i guess my question is whats the weakness of the 5.0...rods? pistons? or is it the crank?

 

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igotyofire said:

just to bring this topic back, when we say 400whp are we talking like 390-450 or . once your pushing i guess 500hp. whats the 1st thing to possibly go...i guess my question is whats the weakness of the 5.0...rods? pistons? or is it the crank?

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The block is the weak link.

 

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I learned this all last week, into detail. The weak spots aren't weak when you're looking at stock horsepower, that's why these 302's are bulletproof like they are. The cast steel parts are the weak links though, when you start throwing power adders on or otherwise raising compression. A Forged crank and pistons will help you big time. Anybody, please tell me if i've got it all wrong....

 

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Forged parts do take more to break BUT it's the improper tune that kills (detonation). There are plenty of people running superchargers on stock bottom ends with no problem as long as the boost/N2O/or the like is keep conservative and the tune is on key.

 

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xr8d302 said:

A Forged crank and pistons will help you big time. Anybody, please tell me if i've got it all wrong....

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The block will go before the stock rotating assembly.

Dave