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Self Test Input Connecter

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I just want to double check my ability to look at the wiring diagrams and make sure that the Self Test Input Connect (right next to the diagnostic connecter) should be a white wire with a blue stripe and a grey connecter. I just received an a9l computer and everything in my previous post that I could possibly check has now been fixed and I want to make sure I have the right connecter before I jumpter it and fry this computer like the guy before me did. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Dumping The computer diagnostic codes on 86-95 Mustangs

Revised 19-May-2009 to update drawing for dumping the codes on 86-88 Mustangs with no check engine light.

Dump the codes and see what the computer says is wrong…Codes may be present in the computer even if the Check Engine light isn’t on.

Here's the way to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

Be sure to turn off the A/C, and put the transmission in neutral when dumping the codes. Fail to do this and you will generate a code 67 and not be able to dump the Engine Running codes.

Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

Here's the link to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

See Troublcodes.net Trouble Codes OBD & OBD2 Trouble Codes and Technical info & Tool Store. By BAT Auto Technical





If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems.

Codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

Alternate methods:
For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see Equus - Digital Ford Code Reader (3145) – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.
 
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My mustang doesn't have the single wire gray shell sti, now what?
 

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You will have to dig into the harness to find it, I believe it's in the same group of wires that the self connector is. Do you have a wire in that area that is spliced to another one?
 
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General karthief said:
You will have to dig into the harness to find it, I believe it's in the same group of wires that the self connector is. Do you have a wire in that area that is spliced to another one?
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The wiring in this car is a nightmare. I'll check. It's a white/red wire?
 

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Yes, red wire, white stripe.
 
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Looked, the only red/white wire I see is directly connected into wiring harness traveling to ECM. Doesn't look like it is spliced anywhere near the test point. Tried turning it over a few times today. Had sort of a "backfire" which means it is trying. Another question though, there is a relay on passenger side by the ECM. Looks almost exact to the fuel relay that is under driver side seat. What is that?
 

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Is that wire cut off or where does it go, stabbing in the dark here, pics would help.
 
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General karthief said:
Is that wire cut off or where does it go, stabbing in the dark here, pics would help.
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Here are some pics, doesn't look cut off. Connected to all these wires Also showing the relay found on passenger side kick panel
 

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rob's car said:
Looked, the only red/white wire I see is directly connected into wiring harness traveling to ECM. Doesn't look like it is spliced anywhere near the test point. Tried turning it over a few times today. Had sort of a "backfire" which means it is trying. Another question though, there is a relay on passenger side by the ECM. Looks almost exact to the fuel relay that is under driver side seat. What is that?
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Ecm relay??
 
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Ecm relay??
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Idk, if thats bad will it make the car not start?
 
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