Serious Cam questions

03REDFIRE · Feb 25, 2006

Ok first of all let me say that I have totally given up on ever getting any type of a blower. It always seems that when I get some money saved something comes up thats more important so short of taking out a personal loan I might as well forget it.
With that all being said I would like to get VT stage 2 cams but, wait time for them is over a month so thier out as well since I cant seem to hold money that long.

What do you surggest for cams that are either off the shelve or in stock that are comprable to Vt's stage 2's?
Im going to get a accufab 75mm TB/P combo, 373's and cams/springs done in all one shot.
Cams HAVE to be able to be tuned easily but, a real aggressive idle is desired.

01Steeda · Feb 25, 2006

i dont know the exact specs on the VT cams.. but I know my specs are

233/237 @ .050 Duration .545"/.550" Lift 113 LSA

very agressive Idle.

Patriots stage 2's

03REDFIRE · Feb 25, 2006

01Steeda said:
i dont know the exact specs on the VT cams.. but I know my specs are

233/237 @ .050 Duration .545"/.550" Lift 113 LSA

very agressive Idle.

Patriots stage 2's

Thx just checked them out heres the VTs specs its latin too me but, they sound fantastic.

Stage 2 N/A cam specs are:

560/575 lift, 225/235 .050 dur, 270/282 adv dur, 108/108 C/L

Jim
Team VT

and heres a link to the video of them @ IDLE.

Do your patriots sound like that if so Im sold.

DropTopPony · Feb 25, 2006

Comp 270AH are another choice. Very nice idle.

01Steeda · Feb 25, 2006

they sound exactly like that

csledd · Feb 25, 2006

VT Stage 2's are worth the wait in my opinion. I'm also planning to buy some as soon as they come into stock. I've done a lot of whinning about the wait and several people have told me to send my stock cams over to Tim @ MPH and have him do a custom grind on them. That's really the only other option I would even consider, but I still don't even want to do that. Wait it out for the VT's.. if you're staying N/A those cams are just unbelievable

03ghoststang · Feb 25, 2006

yup get the VT stg 2's and do a valve spring upgrade

DropTopPony · Feb 25, 2006

csledd said:
I've done a lot of whinning about the wait and several people have told me to send my stock cams over to Tim @ MPH and have him do a custom grind on them. That's really the only other option I would even consider, but I still don't even want to do that.

Why would someone tell you to have your stock cams reground? If your gonna have Tim grind anything they should be fresh billet blanks.

BlackenedSVT · Feb 26, 2006

I would wait for the VT Stage 2 cams too man. I'll be saving up to get some in a few months as well. Can't wait. Also keep in mind you'll need to buy the spring kit for the Stage 2 cams as well. You dont need it for the stage 1 cams, but you do for the stage 2s.

Also, anyone know what the red-line increases to after you get stage 2 cams. What do you guys with the stage 2 cams shift at when you're racin?

csledd · Feb 26, 2006

6500 rpms.. dunno if people actually shift there or not though

TGJ · Feb 26, 2006

03REDFIRE said:
Ok first of all let me say that I have totally given up on ever getting any type of a blower. It always seems that when I get some money saved something comes up thats more important so short of taking out a personal loan I might as well forget it.
With that all being said I would like to get VT stage 2 cams but, wait time for them is over a month so thier out as well since I cant seem to hold money that long.

What do you surggest for cams that are either off the shelve or in stock that are comprable to Vt's stage 2's?
Im going to get a accufab 75mm TB/P combo, 373's and cams/springs done in all one shot.
Cams HAVE to be able to be tuned easily but, a real aggressive idle is desired.

VT Stg II cams are not easy to tune as most other cams. They are difficult to get the car to idle with these cams. Now that could be that people take shortcuts when installing thses cams, but it could also be that tight LSA.

csledd · Feb 26, 2006

which shortcuts are you talking about?

DropTopPony · Feb 26, 2006

csledd said:
which shortcuts are you talking about?

Not degree'ing the cams when installing them. Most people just line up the timing marks and thats it....and that is not the correct way to do it.

oran04gt · Feb 26, 2006

Stage 1s here and no complaints. I didnt want to go through the extra trouble of installing the valve springs for 10 hp.

'03GTinFLA · Feb 26, 2006

oran04gt said:
Stage 1s here and no complaints. I didnt want to go through the extra trouble of installing the valve springs for 10 hp.

Do you have a dyno for after cams? and also what bolt-ons? Just because some people say full exhaust but still have stock header, stuff like that.

COramprat · Feb 26, 2006

I have the Comp 262's (similar to Stage 1's) in my 96 with NPI heads. I wnet from 208HP on a Dynojet to 230HP on a Mustang Dyno...probably close to 235-240 on a Dynojet so the gain is significant.

01Steeda · Feb 26, 2006

when ya going back to no problem rick?

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