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tony laq

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right before i spun a bearing, i was gonna install some shorties to gain a lil bit of power and some sound. long story short, i was gonna have them installed when my engine was out but was sent the wrong product- i got a refund but its now gonna cost me to install due to the engine being back in the car..

so- are they worth putting in with the mods i have now? i know LTs would gain more but i dont wanna replace the mid pipe..

thanks!
 
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shorties really wont do much for ur car minus the sound..the stock manifolds actually flow pretty well and arent that much of a restriction ..especially with ur mods. i feel if your gonna put headers on, do the LTs. plus headers can tend to cause other types of issues such as leaking and rusting out..something u should consider if u daily drive your car in all weather ..dont rele have to worry about that with the stockers..
 
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I don't think they're worth it. I laugh at people who buy them, especially on a mod motor because you can't even see them so it takes the bling factor away. I don't think they change the sound enough to be worth it.
 

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If you want more power and better sound, get an o/r x pipe or even hi-flow cats.

Headers wont get you anything unless your upwards of about 450 rwhp-ish.
 
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damn- this sucks- but i guess it saves some money.

i have an SLP catted x pipe with hi flow cats- i THINK i can remove the cats due to the system being ' slip fit..' decent option in yall's opinion?
 
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if you have high flow cats removing them will prob only net 2-3hp..how bout you work on suspension parts and make better use of the power you do have
 
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ive never really looked into suspension other than maybe lowering a bit- any quick suggestions i can reasearch?
 
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full length subframe connectors...lower control arms..lowering spring..shocks n struts..and prob the most important..a good set of tires!... look into those things and ull get a good idea of the potential
 

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tony laq said:
ive never really looked into suspension other than maybe lowering a bit- any quick suggestions i can reasearch?
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Is it your daily driver? Drive it in the rain or snow?
 

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tony laq said:
shorties worth it?
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Short answer: NO

Long Answer: Hell NO

Pullin' off factory manifold for shorties =
 
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yeah, its my dd..live in virginia so all kinds of weather- this weekend we get over 2ft of freakin' snow..and i left chicago?

im thinking of starting with lowering it, sct tuner, and removing the cats..just got some slp tips to put on my super 40's..

thanks! i think you guys saved me some cash and put me on a better track.
 
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i think u should just leave the cats man honestly. they arent robbing much if any hp and an o/r x will be raspy as hell with the flows.
 

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I put shorties on my car, and it did basically nothing. Dyno numbers proved that too. I researched it a lot, but already had my x-pipe and went against the recommendations of most. Waste of money, especially when you consider what it cost to put them on. When the factory designs the exhaust manifolds they are pretty decent, even in looking at them, their design is very close to a shorty header. Go long tubes definately!!!
 

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Long tubes or nothing thats it. I gained 20rwhp with LTs and 30lbs of rwtq at 3,000rpm over stock headers.
 

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Shorties gained 0 for my headswap 98gt.
 
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sell you mid mipe grab some long tubes and a shorty mid mipe to go with it... or just have your mid pipe cut and modified to fit
 

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4tun8 said:
I don't think they're worth it. I laugh at people who buy them, especially on a mod motor because you can't even see them so it takes the bling factor away. I don't think they change the sound enough to be worth it.
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shorties aren't worth it in the least bit, you may gain 1-2rwhp at the most...
 
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thanks alot guys...you all saved me some money and a pissed off factor with the shorties..i will most likely go with LT's this summer..right now im just gonna do some ' dress up ' stuff..ive got 82k on the car and it needs some stuff..

- lowering springs
- grill delete
- new headlights ..smoked black ( i REALLY need these- mine are shot and the cleaning kit was so-so )
- slp tips ( already have these )
- new shift knob and maybe bezel.
- chin spolier ( maybe in about two months )

thanks again!
 
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I have shorties. There is value if you are running a blower or run a higher rpm level with cams. No, it's not as much as long tubes but they definitely have value as you start pushing the horsepower up. It also allows me to stay street legal and pass emissions.
 
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