Should i get this welder?!?!?!

1320stang

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This is the guy that my buddy picked up his Plasma Cutter from on Ebay. 23420 positive feedbacks, only 11 negatives for a 100% rating. 36781 total feedbacks, looks like a lot of repeat customers.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZweldingsuppliesatioc

 

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here you go.. They have a sale on there hobart welders. I purchaced the hh140 last summer. As long as you feed it good power (key with any welder 120 or 220) it will do just about anything you need to do. The biggest difference between a 120 and 220 is the duty cycle, the 220 might be able to weld a slightly thicker metal but its mostly the duty cycle. 460$ for the hh140 with the regulator for the shielding gas and free shipping is a screaming deal. I was torn between this and a lincoln and realized there is no real difference.



http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/category_6970_114+765791

 

coolblue65

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mustangman70 said:

Check this **** out

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Lincoln-Ele...yZ113743QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Not to hijack but I thought I would share.

I have been researching and saving for a welder for a while now, and one fell in my lap today at Home Depot.....

While I was browsing the open item pile, I spotted a Lincoln 175 for $419! I made the g/f stand guard while I ran and got a cart! To top it off I had a $10 off coupon!

Now I have to learn how to wire 220 in my garage so I can start practicing.

 

WinterStang

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Go for the 220V. It really isnt that much more to buy a new one from HD or Lowes. The 220V will allow you weld thicker metals and provide full penetration.

 

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mustangman70

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WinterStang said:

.... full penetration.

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Skyes 66

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The Tractor Supply company here in the Kansas City area has a HOBART™ HANDLER® 140 WIRE FEED MIG WELDER for $449.98 (TSC # 3812040) new. I would spend the extra $50 for a new than a reconditioned (if you have to pay for shipping the $50 is worth it IMHO). As far as thickness Tractor supply says 22ga to 3/16" and Hobarts website http://www.hobartwelders.com/products/mig/ says 24ga to 1/4" for the same model.

As far as what you need to do a car like the mustang then the Hobart 140 or any other welder that has a output range of 25 to 140 amp should work. You need the 25 amp rating so that you can weld the thinner gage metal the 30 amp rating could cause it to just burn through the metal (if it has thinned any with age or rusted any). For someone that is just using the welder in a home garage then a 120 volt welder IMO would be enough. I have a farm with tractors and what not so I use a 240 volt stick welder so I can weld from 16ga to 1/2 if need be. As you can see it only goes to 16 ga. and the replacement stamped steel panels are typically 19 ga.

Now that I am restoring a 66 stang I need to be able to weld the thinner metals so I am plaining on buying the Hobart 140 instead of the Lincoln Electric Weld Pak 3200HD Wire Feed Welder Model K2190-1 Price: $459.00/ea from Home Depot or the one from Lowes a Lincoln Electric® Pro Series Pro Mig 175 Welder Item #: 189189 Model: K-2280-1 Price: $599.00/ea. I have friends with both Lincoln and Hobart welders. From what they tell me the Hobort can handle more types of wire so it would have more capabilities.
My 2 cents.

Skye

 

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brin0357

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Ronstang said:

Yes, the 175 Pro is a Mig, and one of the suitcase ones like pictured above but with more amperage. It is also 220V but you don't want a 120V unit regardless of what others tell you.....they are just TOO small.

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Whats wrong with a 120? You dont need a 220 to do floor pans and small projects. I think single pass 120 can be done up to about 1/4" and from there 220 is better.

 

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mustangman70

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OK this is good help here

Thanks alot! :SNSign:


Bottom ljne....

will i need to use a 220..... no...but for about the same amount of money i can get a MUCH better welder which will help me later when i start welding frame **** together..

Im pretty stuck on the lincoln175 pro


ronstang! Do YOU want to buy a bigger welder? Want a nice chunk of cash to go to it?

Would you take 350 your 175? And ill cover the shipping?

 

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brin0357

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I have an Sp-130 and it is a heck of alot nicer machine than my 110v millermatic 90, which I do most of my welding with at the moment. Good choice going 220 then

 

enferno

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i own a millermatic 135.

their 110v 90 amp variable.

i've done floor pans, cowl, and subframes with it.


i don't see anything wrong with a 110

 

NasaGT

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I've got a Lincoln SP-135, have had great success with it. I've welded 1/8 steel with full penetration in one pass. There's nothing on a Mustang thicker than that, don't see why anyone would need more if its just for restoration of their car.

 

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mustangman70

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Damn so many choices

This is killing me lol

 

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mustangman70

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PRO-MIG 175
WIRE FEED WELDER

With its attention-getting 175 amps of output

Operates on 208V or 230V single-phase power


Input Volts: 208 / 230
Output Volts: 20
Output Amps: 30 - 175
Cycle Percentage: 208V: 25% / 230V: 30%


So i have one more question, if my dryer outlet is 220v....Will it work if i use that adapter mentioned above? i just want to make sure since im buying it on friday

 

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mustangman70

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So over a year later i finally got my welder

Got my X-mas gift from dad early since i insisted i had to pick it out, I went with the lincoln Weld-PAK 175HD. It came with everything but the tank which im getting tomorrow, got a good deal on one off ebay too for like 400 brand new

It sucks though he wont let me use it till after Xmas... I might just skip dinner and start cutting the floor out haha

its the 208/230 too

 

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Congrats you will enjoy it, I would check into using the adapter on the dryer circuit though. If it comes with a certian amperage plug there has to be a reason behind it. Check the amperage draw on the unit. Unless the code has changed you need 10ga for 30A circuits up to 100ft., 6ga for 50A circuits up to 100ft. I also think that the circuit amperage should be 80% of duty cycle. I would be reluctant to run a welder on my dryer circuit for a prolonged amount of time.

 

1320stang

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I ran a Lincoln Cracker box off a dryer circuit in a rent house and never tripped the breaker. And I was welding thicker metal running a whole rod on a pass, likely drawing more than he will as he likely won't be up against the duty cycle.

 

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You did real good and you're gonna love it.