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How many wires are going into the Self-test Connector to check for codes? When I got the car there was 3 wires going into it with another one just hanging there, so I put it into one of the ports, but I think it was in the wrong port because when I took my car to get tested, their tool diagnostics tool wouldnt connect right. Could somebody please tell me which color wires go into which port?, PLEASE.

Again, PLEASE, anybody with a 5.0 could help me, Thank you all
 

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Diagram courtsey of Tmoss & Stang&2birds. Look to the upper LH side of the diagram for your answer...

 
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Okay, so there are supposed to be 3 wires, so what did that other wire go to? It is coming out of the same spot the other wires are and fit right into the plug.
 
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Bump bump
 
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Somebody has to know this, PLEASE

I just got it back from another shop and he couldn't get any codes from it either.
 

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All you need to get codes out of the computer is a paper clip jumpered between the white/red wire (#48) and the black/white wire (#46). The white/red wire (#48) is a short pigtail off of the big connector.


Here's the link to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great.

See http://www.troublecodes.net/Ford/
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See http://www.mustangworks.com/articles/electronics/eec-iv_codes.html

IF your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.

Codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see http://www.actron.com/product_detail.php?pid=16153 for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Walmart.

Or for a nicer scanner see http://www.midwayautosupply.com/detailedproductdescription.asp?3829 – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $35.

If you have all the wires identified and then jumper them and don't get any codes, then one of the wires is broken.

With the power off, measure the resistance between the black/white wire (#46) and battery ground. You should see less than 1.5 ohms, more than 1.5 ohms and you have a broken wire or bad connection.

At this point unless you have a DVM or multimeter and some electrical smarts, you need to find someone good with electrical circuits. It is very difficult to get someone enough training to troubleshoot electrical problems by way of Stangnet.

If you have the tools & electrical training I will be glad to help. If not, then this is going to be very difficult for you.
 
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I don't see a white/red wire. There is a tan/red wire with a female connection on the end coming out of the same wiring bundle as the Self-test connector. Next to that in another bunch of wires is a tan wire with a female connection too but with a brown plug on the end of it.

What is going on here?
 

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The tan/red wire is the same as the red/white STI wire in the posted diagram. Mine is tan/red also, with a grey connector. You can also reference #48 on http://fordfuelinjection.com/?p=6
 
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Okay, thanks a bunch. Mine doesn't have any plug on it, it is just a straight up piece of metal connector, is this normal?

I guess now would be a good time to mention that I hooked up the tan wire with the plug on it to the black/white wire and it sparked and every since then I have had a check engine light on. Any ideas what I did?
 

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MYLX5.0 said:
Okay, thanks a bunch. Mine doesn't have any plug on it, it is just a straight up piece of metal connector, is this normal?

I guess now would be a good time to mention that I hooked up the tan wire with the plug on it to the black/white wire and it sparked and every since then I have had a check engine light on. Any ideas what I did?
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Disconnect the battery for 20 minutes. If that doesn't fix it, you shorted the check engine light circuit inside the computer. I hope that you have a spare computer around, because that's the only way you are going to be able to fix this problem.
 
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Well it's a damn good thing that I have a new EEC sitting around in my pantry. This sucks a fat one.

Thanks for the help.
 

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Okay, thanks a bunch. Mine doesn't have any plug on it, it is just a straight up piece of metal connector, is this normal?
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The STI connector originally came with a platic shell around the terminal pictured here.
 
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