Smoking after idle..

9646gt

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White smoke/ smells like gas

My car doesn't seem to smoke one bit when I get on it or anything..but If I let it idle for about 5 minutes or so I get a horrible like white smoke cloud..is the car running rich? What is the best way to go about taking care of it? I have new plugs and wires and tps and I have ran injector cleaner and changed the oil with NO sign of coolant getting into the oil...

Edited: The car IS smoking when you get on it or rev it while idleing if you rev it to about 2k on the tach...still trying to trouble shoot this..any ideas?

 

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9646gt said:

My car doesn't seem to smoke one bit when I get on it or anything..but If I let it idle for about 5 minutes or so I get a horrible like white smoke cloud..is the car running rich? What is the best way to go about taking care of it? I have new plugs and wires and tps and I have ran injector cleaner and changed the oil with NO sign of coolant getting into the oil...

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are you sure it's smoke and not steam.. white smoke is coolant burning..

 

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MikeZ28 said:

are you sure it's smoke and not steam.. white smoke is coolant burning..

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Well it does it even when it is warm out side..temp hand never gets higher than a hair past half...only coolant leak I have found is the heater core..I need to make sure there isnt any blue tinit to it ..It smells kinda like gas but then again an oil smell..could just be old age hehe..either way I am not really sure...only does it if it idles a while tho and never any other time..

 

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well i would say not having cats contributes to this.

 

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With those miles I would bet its blow by from your rings. Pretty common with Fords.

 

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UhadMEatGT said:

With those miles I would bet its blow by from your rings. Pretty common with Fords.

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Yeah very good point...even with a fresh oil change it doesn't take much to blow by them i guess..looks like i will start saving..

 

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Iv been having the same problem, i also thought it was blowby from the rings, but my car is only a 2000GT with 60K on the OD. so i did a little research and found that the 4.6 has a real bad habit of sucking in oil into the pcv system contaminating the charge. Does your oil level get low after about a month? like your always adding in a quart a month? happens to me. I bought a pcv air/oi seperator kit from steeda, might want to look into it.

 

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9646gt said:

but If I let it idle for about 5 minutes or so I get a horrible like white smoke cloud..is the car running rich?

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Well, actually this means that a new Pope is elected....

Haha, sorry, mang!

 

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mine smokes like a mother also. its been doing it since new. i thought somthing was wrong, but now i think it is just moisture in the exhaust. start it up,let it idle for longer then five min. about 15 mins. check every once and a while. you will prob. see water pouring out of the exhaust tips. or moisture inside the tips.

 

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Well I haven't chnaged the PCV valve yet...I found it does do it when I get on it going down the road and my buddy said he smelt gas really strong while he was behind me..I am begining to think it may be a leaky injector o-ring...what do you guys think? It does it if it idles for a few minutes and I rev it ..no coolant what so ever in the oil and of course I haven't owned it long enough to notice a change in the oil level..it was still full from who ever had it b4 me when I changed it this weekend tho...you guys let me know you opinions and i would also like to know more about this part from steeda if you can let me in on some info...thanks guys!

 

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9646gt said:

My car doesn't seem to smoke one bit when I get on it or anything..but If I let it idle for about 5 minutes or so I get a horrible like white smoke cloud..is the car running rich? What is the best way to go about taking care of it? I have new plugs and wires and tps and I have ran injector cleaner and changed the oil with NO sign of coolant getting into the oil...

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mine did the same thing. it was the valve seals. Same mileage and everything. idle for 5 minutes, move, grey/white smoke. valve seals might need replaced. its a bitch job FYI

 

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poorcollegekid said:

mine did the same thing. it was the valve seals. Same mileage and everything. idle for 5 minutes, move, grey/white smoke. valve seals might need replaced. its a bitch job FYI

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Most of the time from my previous experience tho..the valve seals wont cause it to do it while driving and when you go wot for the most part...and considering it has a strong smell of fuel I am seriously thinking its an injector problem...

 

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If your injector o-rings are bad, you'd be leaking fuel all over the fuel rail. I'd suggest it might be o2 or MAF related, if your buddy smelled strong fuel while you were driving.

 

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Shiroelex said:

If your injector o-rings are bad, you'd be leaking fuel all over the fuel rail. I'd suggest it might be o2 or MAF related, if your buddy smelled strong fuel while you were driving.

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The only thing I have checked the MAF with was the tap test with a screw driver and it seemed just fine..the check engine light was on b4 with a code p420 ( car has no cats) but oddly after giving her a little hell today the light went off and I haven't seen that beast since then...slowly I will work this out..its making the inside of the car stink like fuel bc the moske sometimes has a habbit of getting in the car..even the camaro drivers are looking at me

 

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Still not having any luck so i figured I would BUMP the topic..anyone?

 

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Ok jsut kinda of an update..even if I get no replies at least I can make some notes to my self here to look back at as I trouble shoot this problem...ne ways..

A friend of mine who is a mechanic for the local Ford dealership said that it may be an injector thats hanging and not closing all the way...is there a good additive that I can put in my fuel to try and correct this or should I remove all the injectors and just test them and cclean them really well? I thought about adding a can of seafoam to the tank...I guess anything is worth a shot at this point..