i want to buy some lakewood 70/30's but don't know if i should get the stock foxbody length or the sn-95 length? 
sn-95 5 lug conversion...which struts?
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i have a sn95 front conversion and am using fox struts, so i'd say so.
hell, you can use fox struts/shocks on a sn95 if its nice and low and it would be a better option than using the sn95 shocks/struts (because of the car being so low)
unless there is some special reason (like the car being really high or maybe need a alot of travel) why you need to use a sn95 70/30 over a fox 70/30, i see no reason why you cant use a fox spec one.
hell, you can use fox struts/shocks on a sn95 if its nice and low and it would be a better option than using the sn95 shocks/struts (because of the car being so low)
unless there is some special reason (like the car being really high or maybe need a alot of travel) why you need to use a sn95 70/30 over a fox 70/30, i see no reason why you cant use a fox spec one.
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Shakerhood
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Kumm3
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i disagree
i have 03 cobra bilsteins on my 89 w/ SN95 brakes, and i have never bottomed out, even with the C springs.
i think we can add this one to the 5.0 myths, right alongside the quad shock myth.
The quad shocks are a roll of the dice. No matter what the combination of control arms and shocks, some cars will wheel hop without quad shocks and some won't. There are so many variables in 28-13 year old cars with wear, misalignment and combinations of suspension componets and tires that one unchanging answer won't work for everyone.
I personally would leave them in place, and make sure they are in good shape. I do know this, that Ford is cheap. If they could have made changes in some simple component like bushings or control arm construction and saved $10, they would have done it. Multiply $10 times all the Fox body Mustangs ever made and you would be almost as rich as Donald Trump. That's a lot of $$$, and good incentive to engineer something to do away with the quad shocks.
Bingo.
With all the engineering ford put into the Fox suspension since 1986, they would have eliminated the quad shocks if they could have. They tweaked spring rates, dampener rates, stabilizer thicknesses and adjusted the bushings a little and they still kept the quads.
They are there for a reason, and it's not to band-aid poor engineering.
Every car is hit-or-miss on if you can remove them. I love it when someone chimes in "I took my quads off and have no problem" and yet they don't even have the same setup as others. Even tires can play into if you have hop or not. Everyone is different, so the cookie cutter "ditch the quads with LCA's" statement is obsolete these days
stang&2Birds
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So, because you have never had a problem, that makes it Dogma? Hmm, because you have never been hit by lightning, then people do not die from lightning strikes? Right? Yes, your perspective on the world defines the world!
If you go to UConn, I still have contacts from when I went to grad school and taught there. I'll make sure I talk to your professors.
Maybe you should check the specs on Fox vs sn95 struts. Do you know any of the differences?
Don't use sn95 struts on lowered cars, they will bottom out before the suspension does. It would be very very bad if your strut breaks!
SN95 FCA's are ~1.3" longer. The sn95 struts are made to be ~1+" longer (they also revise the FCA mounting point). Some strut manufactures list the specs.
Shakerhood
20+ Year Stangneter
I have Bullitt Struts and Shocks on my Car and held side by side to my Fox Ones the Bullitts bottomed so they have Less Travel, and BTW Quad Shocks are not a Myth!
Kumm3
Founding Member
So, because you have never had a problem, that makes it Dogma? Hmm, because you have never been hit by lightning, then people do not die from lightning strikes? Right? Yes, your perspective on the world defines the world!
If you go to UConn, I still have contacts from when I went to grad school and taught there. I'll make sure I talk to your professors.
Maybe you should check the specs on Fox vs sn95 struts. Do you know any of the differences?
Don't use sn95 struts on lowered cars, they will bottom out before the suspension does. It would be very very bad if your strut breaks!
SN95 FCA's are ~1.3" longer. The sn95 struts are made to be ~1+" longer (they also revise the FCA mounting point). Some strut manufactures list the specs.
um, ok then.....
was just stating my actual real world experiences with this setup. My apologies if you disagree, but thats your right to do.
Never went to Uconn, and really dont know what that has to do with anything, this is tech, not talk.
Yes siiir!! I have uppers and lowers....with no quads...never had quads. They are heavy duty with poly bushings, and I still have wheel hop, although it was greatly reduced. I do have bad tires though, they are blad and a little chopped. That could contribute to the wheel hop also. I have the brackets for the quads, and I still have to buy quads but I am going to put them on soon even if the tires solve the wheel hop.
bullitstang1313
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To get back to the question asked by 1991vert, use the Fox struts. I have the fox 70/30's on mine with the sn95 spindles and haven't had any problems. I did a coil over setup with tubular a-arms though. I asked the guys with maximum motorsports and they said to stay with the Fox struts.
Shakerhood
20+ Year Stangneter
The reason SN95 Cars use Fox Struts when lowered is there will be less chance of bottoming out the Struts.
