Something you guys should watch...

Amid all the crap coming out of the US media (and gov.) these days...whether it be that new flight 93 movie, or that video the dept. of defense released a couple days ago showing (apparently) a plane hitting the pentagon...I suggest that everyone (especially those directly south of me) inform themselves on the actual events of 9/11 instead of consuming the corporate agenda driven media as though it is God's truth.

for starters...go to google video and watch the number one video on their top 100

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848

Oh, and I'm no conspiracy theorist, I would love to believe there's nothing shady going on here...unfortunately the evidence points to the contrary (and there's a lot of it)

Here's to the truth.

It's long(ish) but once you start watching, it is pretty engrossing

Killercanary said:

And I'm supposed to believe that this conspiracy crap is any more truthful??? PLEASE!

I was in NYC in October 2001, in DC that december, and I live not even 40 minutes from Shanksville. Having been at the locations immediately after that tragic day and seeing what I did makes me ENRAGED when I read this conspiracy crap about it. That day is what it was, a cowardly attack on innocent civilians by extremist. I, and others may not agree with all of the actions taken by this GREAT country of ours since then but I'll support those with the job it is to right this wrong.




Maybe some should watch this instead of the conspiracy garbage...

http://www.greygh0st.net/flash/neverforget.html

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Not trying to start any battles here Paul, just making sure people aren't confusing FOX, CNN, ABC, CBS and the other major news networks with the truth.

Do you not find it strange that the CIA was responsible for the training of Bin Ladin himself? It's not a conspiracy, it's the truth (as in the government admits to it).

It's important for people to inform themselves about issues. That's my main point. If you or anyone else is able to look at all the information presented (and I actually mean, look at it, don't just brush it off as conspiracy) and make your own decision about it, good!

I think this doesn't have to turn into a flamewar or anything childish. There's no reason there can't be a mature and intelligent debate about this. And just in case you think I'm talking out my ass, I'm in my last year of a combined honours program in Political Science and Global Studies. I've been studying all of this since it happened (and before).

That video is pointless. The hippies that put it together are no different than those wackos who spend their lives doing word searches in the bible. There's a 'W' on one page, an 'A' on another and at the end of the paragraph there is an 'R' HOLY CRAP THAT SPELLS WAR!! It's a SECRET CODE!!

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Saying it is pointless is pretty ignorant...I must say. Do you really think we should believe everything the Bush administration tells us? I could point to any numbers of **** ups where they told a blatant lie as if it was the truth. Oh yeah...why are we in Iraq?

Also, nothing in any of the video can be described as "evidence" incriminating the government. So if I said "man it would suck if a jet hit this building and knocked it down" and it actually happens, by that logic I would be guilty of the event

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That is not the logic. It's more like this. "America is under attack, we must now find someone to flex our muscles against, to show the world what our military is made of". This is not new rhetoric. What do you think the Gulf War was? It was merely an attempt to make up for Vietnam. Anyone ever heard of Robert Mcnamara?

This time it's much more complicated. The Vice President owns a substantial stake of Haliburton and the Bush family is heavily invested in the Carlyle group. I didn't even mention oil. Has nobody ever heard of a little thing called 'conflict of interest'?

How is he not technically our president? He lost the electoral vote?

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You might want to do a little research into that.

I'm more then willing to entertain outlandish theories if they have the facts to back them up

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Here are some FACTS:

1) The US government was responsible for removal of the pro-socialist government of Afghanistan during the 1980s. The CIA trained Osama Bin Laden and funneled money into the Taleban and was directly responsible for their rise to power. Go get a history book. it's all there.

2) The US governement IGNORED over ten warnings that an attack on US soil was imminent

3) F16s failed to scramble on Semptember 11th in time to take out the planes. They had plenty of time to atleast get to the airliners, let alone shoot them down. This didn't happen.

4) The world trade center towers were built to withstand plane attacks and massive fires. Jet fuel could not possibly reach the temperatures necessary to take down the towers (this has been confirmed many, many times) and it IS NOT responsible for the subsequent explosions within the towers. Especially the ones no where near the planes.

5) George Bush would not allow the 9/11 commission to tape his testimony. And he had to have his crony rice there with him to make sure he didn't do anything even more stupid. What's to hide?

6) The final report was heavily censored. again, what's to hide if there's no conspiracy?