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Starter just wont Stop

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first off I have moved my battery to the trunk and ran the "s" and "i" wires to the trunk. I ran a wire to the back for the paired yellow, black and red wire and the single red wire( have a one wire alternator, are any of those obsolete?)
I have switched the the two little wires that attach at the solenoid seeing if they were mixed up but one combination the starter comes on at the on position. the other it doesnt want to kick over at all. It is a new solenoid and just bought a new ignition switch. so any thoughts would be nice. Im thinking of buying a new solenoid seeing if that works. This is driving me crazy as Im trying to get ready to break in the engine and but this is holding me back. any help would be appreciated.
 

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Is it a generic solenoid or is it the correct Ford replacement one? The generic ones sometimes have one of the terminals as an isolated ground.
 
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it is a generic one. So your saying one of the small terminals is for the ground...
 

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Without seeing it I couldn't tell you. I had the same problem when replacing the old fender solenoid in my Jeep.

Wait, I see you also bought a new ignition switch. Did you have to splice any wires?
 
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all I did was unplug and replug the new switch in. The old switch was doing the same thing as the new one.
 

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Do you still have the original solenoid you replaced?
 
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yeah I do but its really rusty. I had to cut off one of the terminals to save the wiring connections.
 

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Here, THIS should help you out.
 
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i have seen that particular diagram before. I looked through most everything and nothing seems to be out of place.
 

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Well, the obvious fact is that you're getting 12V from the ignition to the solenoid terminal in the ON position. This could be from the wires being on the opposite terminals.

When you put them the other way, you get no starter action. This is probably the correct way, but there is a continuity gap between the ignition and the solenoid.


Do you have a neutral safety switch? Or, has it been bypassed? Is it unplugged?
 
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I do have a neutral safety switch. It is quite old and off the transmission on account of me having a AOD. Im still trying to work out that wiring but the switch is in a position that is allowing it to start. I did have trouble turning it when I did switch it. Maybe the NSS has got a short? WOuld replacing that really make a difference.
 

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Bypass it if it for now by running the wire from the ignition directly to the solenoid if the switch doesn't fit your tranny. There should be four wires. Two are for the reverse lights and two are for the neutral safety switch.
 
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Well I fiddled around with the switch and moved it to another position and move the wires back to the position where they werent working and sure enough it turned over in the right position.
 

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And that, my friend, is the reason I'm here!
 
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and im here to thank you. Now on to other problems...lol
 
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