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Starter Solenoid Issues?

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Alright so i'm having issues with the starter solenoid on my 91' foxbody that is mounted on the driver's side inner fender. I have constant +12V to the left side of the solenoid from the battery, and power to the little trigger wire on top of the solenoid when the key is turned to start the car. My issue is I am not getting power to the right side of the solenoid to trigger for my starter to engage. If I jump the starter trigger wire to the right side of the solenoid the starter will engage. Any thoughts as to why I am not getting power to the right side of the starter solenoid? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 

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If your getting solid power to solenoid?,and power each time you turn the key?....then i would say the solenoid it no good?,or there is a break from solenoid to starter?
 
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I've done some more research and I think I have it wired incorrectly. It's for an ls swap so I think il just wire it as if it were a mini starter. So the power wire for the starter should go to the L side of the starter solenoid along with the battery cable and then I'll run a 12g wire from the R side of the ford solenoid to the small post on the GM starter. I'll let u guys know if it does the trick once i check it out tonight. Thanks though!
 
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No Crank checklist for 5.0 Mustangs

Revised 24-Oct-2013 to update voltage drop figures.

No crank, slow crank and stuck starter solenoid problems have the same root causes – low battery voltage and poor connections. For that reason, they are grouped together.
Use the same initial group of tests to find the root cause of slow crank, no crank and stuck solenoid problems.

Since some of the tests will bypass the safety interlocks, make sure that the car is in neutral and the parking brake is set. Becoming a pancake isn’t part of the repair process…


1.) Will the car start if it is jumped? Then clean battery terminals and check battery for low charge and dead cells. A good battery will measure 12-13 volts at full charge with the ignition switch in the Run position but without the engine running.
A voltmeter placed across the battery terminals should show a minimum of 9.5-10 volts when the ignition switch is turned to the Start position and the starter engages or tries to engage. Less than this will result in a clicking solenoid, or slow cranking (if it cranks at all) or a starter solenoid that sticks and welds the contacts together.

Most auto parts stores will check your battery for free. It does not have to be installed in the car to have it checked; you can carry it with you to the auto parts store.

The battery posts and inside of the battery post terminals should be scraped clean with a knife or battery post cleaner tool. This little trick will fix a surprising number of no start problems.

The clamp on with 2 bolts battery terminal ends are a known problem causer. Any place you see green on a copper wire is corrosion. Corrosion gets in the clamped joint and works its way up the wire under the insulation. Corroded connections do not conduct electricity well. Avoid them like the plague...

If the starter solenoid welds the contacts, then the starter will attempt to run anytime there is power in the battery. The cables and solenoid will get very hot, and may even start smoking. The temporary fix for a welded starter solenoid is to disconnect the battery and smack the back of the solenoid housing a sharp blow with a hammer. This may cause the contacts to unstick and work normally for a while.


A voltmeter is handy if you are familiar with how to use it to find bad connections. Measure the voltage drop across a connection while trying to start the car: more than .25 volts across a connection indicates a problem. The voltage drop tests need to be done while cranking the engine. It's the current flowing through a connection or wire that causes the voltage drop.

See http://assets.fluke.com/appnotes/automotive/beatbook.pdf for help for help troubleshooting voltage drops across connections and components. .



Voltage drops should not exceed the following:
200 mV Wire or cable
300 mV Switch or solenoid
100 mV Ground
0.0V Connections
A voltage drop lower that spec is always acceptable.

2.) Check the battery to engine block ground down near the oil filter, and the ground behind the engine to the firewall. All grounds should be clean and shiny. Use some sandpaper to clean them up.

3.) Jump the big terminals on the starter solenoid next to the battery with a screwdriver - watch out for the sparks! If the engine cranks, the starter and power wiring is good. The starter relay is also known as a starter solenoid.

The rest of the tech note only concerns no crank problems. If your problem was a stuck solenoid, go back to step 1.

4.) Then pull the small push on connector (small red/blue wire) off the starter solenoid (Looks like it is stuck on a screw). Then jump between the screw and the terminal that is connected to the battery. If it cranks, the relay is good and your problem is in the rest of the circuit.

5.) Remember to check the ignition switch, neutral safety switch on auto trans and the clutch safety switch on manual trans cars. If they are good, then you have wiring problems.

Typical start circuit...
Diagram courtesy of Tmoss & Stang&2birds



6.) Pull the starter and take it to AutoZone or Pep Boys and have them test it. Starter fails test, then replace it. If you got this far, the starter is probably bad.


Starter solenoid wiring for 86-91 Mustang



Starter solenoid wiring 92-93 Mustang or earlier Mustang with upgraded high torque mini starter.


Electrical checks for the switches and starter solenoid

Remove the small red/blue wire from the starter solenoid. Use a screwdriver to bridge the connection from the battery positive connection on the starter solenoid to the small screw where the red/blue wire was connected. The starter should crank the engine. If it does not, the starter solenoid is defective or the battery lacks sufficient charge to crank the engine.

If the starter does crank the engine, the problem is in the clutch safety circuit (5 speed) or Neutral Sense Switch (auto trans) or ignition switch.


See the Typical start circuit diagram above for wiring information for troubleshooting.

You will need a voltmeter or test lamp for the rest of the checks. Connect one lead of the voltmeter or test lamp to ground. The other lead will connect to the item under test.
Look for 12 volts on the white/pink wire when the ignition switch is turned to the Start position. Check the ignition switch first.
No 12 volts, replace the ignition switch.

The next step will require you to push the clutch pedal to the floor (5 speed) or put the transmission in neutral (auto trans) while the ignition switch is turned to the Start position.
Good 12 volts, check the clutch safety switch (5 speed) or Neutral Sense Switch (auto trans) for good 12 volts on both sides of the switches. No 12 volts on both sides of the switch and the switches are defective or out of adjustment. Check the wiring for bad connections while you are at it.
 

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sometimes the plunger inside the solenoid sticks. Rap it with a screwdriver a few times to see if it releases. If you need a new one, only get a FOMOCO unit. Store brands are garbage. Make sure the backing plate, area on the fender, and mounting bolts and holes are all clean and shiny. The solenoid grounds to the body.

You can upgrade to a 92-93 ministarter and solenoid. You will need to run a 12g + wire from the solenoid ( which is now a relay) to the + key on side the solenoid and swap power wire on the solenoid on the fiewwall to + battery side.

 

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I wired it today when I got off work like how I said in my last comment and it worked great!
 

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I like it when Jonathan revs the stang at the end of the video, priceless.
 

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....... no decent bowties to put that LS in?
Or just not able to figure out multiple cams?
Hate to see a good foxbody ruined.....
Jk. Foxbodies make great swap platforms I want to do a new cyote swap myself.
 
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I chased the same issue with my car, but different circumstances. In the end was having starting issues and thought I had a bad starter or solenoid as I was getting clicking when trying to start. I have had issues on and off over the last few months with weak starts, sometimes no start and have been chasing it down as battery tested fined. In the end found my issue today, it was the ground wire running from the battery to the solenoid... it was clamped down but loose, and had to re-clamp. Posting hoping this helps someone in the future, I didn't even think to check it and it fell out when I was about to go re-test the battery and I disconnected.....
 
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wildstang17 said:
I chased the same issue with my car, but different circumstances. In the end was having starting issues and thought I had a bad starter or solenoid as I was getting clicking when trying to start. I have had issues on and off over the last few months with weak starts, sometimes no start and have been chasing it down as battery tested fined. In the end found my issue today, it was the ground wire running from the battery to the solenoid... it was clamped down but loose, and had to re-clamp. Posting hoping this helps someone in the future, I didn't even think to check it and it fell out when I was about to go re-test the battery and I disconnected.....
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Update... My car was starting fine for several days and this issue came back up again.... I finally replaced the starter with the SVE starter from LMR that comes with the starter solenoid and all has been working now for weeks so I thing I dound all of the issues, fingers crossed.
 
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