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Hey all its me again... Heres the situation I was driving along while it was raining i turn down a street thats flooded well i drive on anyway because if that lowered honda can make it I know i would.... car dies midway into the water.. I manage to push it onto drier part of land try and start I hear a click but no crank from the starter.

Did my starter get water logged and im just going to have to wait it out for the starter to dry? or is there anything ic an do to speed it up?
 
I thought that however my air filter is mounted behind the fenderwell still stock placement on a 90 lx still has the paperfilter and everything it didnt get soaked.
 
However upon trying to push start the car nothing happened tried it 7 times tires would just lock up so either we arent doing it right or it really is locked up. Tried first and 2nd gear several times
 
Remove the air intake ducting and all 8 spark plugs. Then try to crank the engine. If it sucked water into the cylinders, you may have damaged the connecting rods or pistons. Water does not compress and will hydro-lock an engine.

If it does crank, plan on changing the oil and all filters. The air filter may still be soaked with water.

Once you have determined that there is no water in any of the cylinders, then follw the checklist:
No Crank checklist for 5.0 Mustangs

Since some of the tests will bypass the safety interlocks, make sure that the car is in neutral and the parking brake is set. Becoming a pancake isn’t part of the repair process…

Check battery, terminal connections, ground, starter relay switch (also known as solenoid) and starter in that order. The clamp on with 2 bolts battery terminal ends are a know problem causer.

A voltmeter is handy if you are familiar with how to use it to find bad connections. Measure the voltage drop across a connection: more than .5 volts across a connection indicates a problem.
See http://www.fluke.com/application_notes/automotive/circuit.asp?AGID=1&SID=103 for help for help troubleshooting voltage drops across grounds.
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1.) Will the car start if it is jumped? Then clean battery terminals and check battery.

2.) Check the battery to engine block ground, and the ground behind the engine to the firewall.

3.) Jump the big terminals on the starter relay next to the battery with a screwdriver - watch out for the sparks! If the engine cranks, the starter and power wiring is good. The starter relay is also known as a starter solenoid.

4.) Then pull the small push on connector (red wire) off the starter relay (Looks like it is stuck on a screw). Then jump between the screw and the terminal that is connected to the battery. If it starts, the relay is good and your problem is in the rest of the circuit.

5.) Remember to check the ignition switch, neutral safety switch on auto trans and the clutch safety switch on manual trans cars. If they are good, then you have wiring problems.
Typical start circuit...
Diagram courtesy of Tmoss &Stang&2birds
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See http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/gif/large/0900823d80195963.gif for 88-90 year cars .OR see http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/gif/large/0900823d80195964.gif for 91-93 year cars. See http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiB..._us/0900823d/80/1d/db/3c/0900823d801ddb3c.jsp for 94-95 model cars.

6.) The starter may be hung, loosen up the bolts that hold it on, and give it a good whack with a big hammer. Tighten up the bolts and try again.

7.) If that doesn't work, use a jumper cable from the positive lead on the battery direct to the starter post where the big wire from the relay connects. If it cranks then, it is the power wire from the relay gone bad. This will be hard to do, since there isn't much room to do it.

8.) Pull the starter and take it to Autozone or Pep Boys and have them test it. Starter fails test, then replace it. If you got this far, the starter is probably bad.
 
Well I am completely unable to turn the crank at all so Its screwed :( time to get a new motor hmm?

You have all the plugs out and cannot turn the engine over with a breaker bar/socket on the crank bolt?

Not that I condone doing it, but another means of 'rocking' a motor is to put it in 5th gear and push the car forward.

If no go with the breaker, remove the belt and try again (in case an accessory is holding you up). A little penetrating oil down each plug hole might help too.

Random thoughts.
Good luck.