Supercharger or new HCI?

final5-0 · Apr 30, 2009

thebuckaman said:
Do I need an adjustable fuel pressure reg too?

Also, I can't afford a PMS, but I wanted to know my options on a tune.

From what I have read, you can do the following:

A. You can have the fuel pressure and timing set for the car- basic "tune"

B. You can have a guy tune your car on the dyno and then burn it to a chip

C. You can get a Quarterhorse and have the tech tune that (Do most shops do this?)

D. Get a PMS or TwEECer and have them tune that.

I had a quote to tune the car with a custom burned chip on the dyno for $550.

Is this a worthwhile way to go?

Something to think about ... as I see it

B) is what you do if you don't wanna tune yourself

Your understanding of C, or D is kinda like going to the Waffle House for breakfast
and taking your bacon & eggs with you and asking them to cook them
for you

If you wanna have somebody tune your Stang, you wanna allow them to use
whatever method they are most familiar with

Remember ... You are paying by the hour

You don't wanna handcuff the guy by making him tune with something he
is not all that efficient with

Grady

ProKiller · Apr 30, 2009

if you get a PMS though, they'll give you a basic tune for the blower.

Mustangless · Apr 30, 2009

Your mods are pretty basic (including s/c). If you are not planing on more mods, I would get the quarterhorse and learn to tune. If you visit tunexchange, you can find a tune that will be very helpful.

You will also need to get a wideband. I also believe you can't get the tune on the dot unless you have a dyno. The stock fpr works.

thebuckaman · Apr 30, 2009

Summit just called and said the supercharger kit I ordered is no longer available.

So now I have most of the supporting mods on order and NO Blower!

Ugh....I hate when they do that. The other kit is like 600 bucks more!

5spd GT · Apr 30, 2009

Do you want to subtract 50 lbs off the front or add 50 lbs on the front?

Do you want a new top-end?

Do you want to deal with the possibility of blown headgaskets?

final5-0 · Apr 30, 2009

Mustangless said:
Your mods are pretty basic (including s/c). If you are not planing on more mods, I would get the quarterhorse and learn to tune. If you visit tunexchange, you can find a tune that will be very helpful.

You will also need to get a wideband. I also believe you can't get the tune on the dot unless you have a dyno. The stock fpr works.

It would seem to me

You could tune on the street

Also ... Tuning on the street would duplicate load more than on a dyno

Only draw back is ... The speed can get kinda high

When you dial in your fuel for the top of the maf curve

Grady

thebuckaman · Apr 30, 2009

Well, I landed a set of new 42lb Ford Racing injectors for a great price, and got a steal on a new Walbro 255lph, Kirban AFPR, and a PMAS 75mm MAF calibrated for 42lb. The final score was a series 2 AFM PMS with the 3bar MAP. Now I need a blower kit again. I am also looking at upgrading the ignition if funds allow. I got such a great deal on the supporting mods so, that makes me happy. ANy ideas on Ignition recommendations?

btw, ur car sounds wicked 5.0

Itkix · May 1, 2009

Best kit I've found is from Andersonfordmotorsports, has the V2sq, and alot of goodies, Intank Fp 255, T-rex Fp, anderson powerpipe, Mallory Ignition Vi w map, but I see you have some of these parts allready, kit for $3150, cheapest Ive found V2Sq is $2850 and that comes with no other parts.

99FiveOh · May 1, 2009

You need to give Summit some crap about how they dropped the ball! I'd demand the next level kit for a discounted price. Usually summit is accomodating in that manner. Also, what kit did you get? If it's a basic S trim kit for 94/95 summit is full of crap! Call up Vortech and ask if they still make the kit, Summit can have it drop shipped direct from Vortech.

We just went through this with an 01 GT kit. Came right from Vortech.

thebuckaman · May 1, 2009

I was on the phone with Summit for over an hour talking (yelling) at different people. They didn't even budge. They told me that they can't sell me a part that isn't made anymore. I will not do business with them again. Not a good experience.

I did end up getting one from a local dealer and he matched the price for the V3 Si trim blower kit with Jegs. It should be here in two weeks. This guy was a pleasure to deal with and very helpful.

Im looking at the Crane Hi-6 ignition. Any thoughts?

Also, what plugs should I run?

revhead347 · May 1, 2009

thebuckaman said:
Im looking at the Crane Hi-6 ignition. Any thoughts?

Also, what plugs should I run?

It's a good ignition box, but Crane Cams just went out of business, so you might have trouble finding one, and there won't be any warranty on it. I always run an Autolite plug.

Kurt

ProKiller · May 1, 2009

autolite 3924 plugs.

Stanger007 · May 1, 2009

thebuckaman said:
ANy ideas on Ignition recommendations?

Once I hit spark blowout problems (not until I went to aluminum heads, ported intake) I went with a Mallory 6A box/coil and overall ignition tuneup. I was using Autolite 3924 plugs for my Trickflow heads and they worked awesome. I did switch to some Brisk plugs since we are a dealer for them but at the level my car is at the Autolites are just fine.

The factory ignition system worked quite well for me on the iron heads and Cobra intake/powerpipe combo at 12psi. I ran a 0.028" gap. Ran low 12s like that on my street tires, full weight auto 'vert.

Wes

thebuckaman · May 2, 2009

The crane ignition with coil shipped today. I am wondering what you guys guess the dyno numbers will be with a safe tune?

99FiveOh · May 3, 2009

Well, my S trim kit was installed with the stock 3.33" pulley / AFM powerpipe and made 13psi. I had headers, exhaust and an Edelbrock perf. intake. My car made 423 to the tires and an equal amount of torque.

You have a better breathing engine due to the heads and cam, so your boost will probably only show 11 or 12 with a power pipe or 10 without. But I have to think you'll put more down due to having the heads, so I'm going to guess 445 rwhp.

thebuckaman · May 4, 2009

445rwhp? Really? I was thinking more like 350-375 rwhp max. 445 is almost 200 more than I have right now rwhp. Is this really possible?

ProKiller · May 4, 2009

its possible but i'm thinking you'll be right around 400

99FiveOh · May 4, 2009

Why would a Cobra make less power than a mostly stock GT with the same blower kit?

ProKiller · May 5, 2009

The_Mustang said:
Why would a Cobra make less power than a mostly stock GT with the same blower kit?

in all honesty dude, your car's a freak. i've rarely seen those kind of numbers with a stock car and just a vortech. gt or cobra. I'd rather err on the side of lower numbers to manage the expectation. if he doesn't reach those 425 numbers he's going to be disappointed and wonder why his car isn't making the power it should when each car is different.

not dissing you in anyway mind you.

99FiveOh · May 5, 2009

A freak and I sold it

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