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Ok I got the tailshaft off but not down as I will have to drop the exhaust,at least in the back.what I found is a heck of a lot of play if I grab the output shaft,at least like a half inch in all directions,is this normal?the whole reason I pulled the housing is thete was a lot of play in the output shaft when the housing was on but not this much.
 
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I don't remeber any if much play in my output shaft.One of your bearings might have let loose or if the output shaft race retainer might have failed. There is suppose to be a shim behind the retainer that keeps everything tight. I think you should have at most 1 thousanths play from front to back if you push and pull on the output shaft. You will probably have to pull the tranny to see what really is going on.
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well it is not endplay,in and out, it is up and down and side to side,but the more im thinking about it ,with the t/s housing off the shaft would prolly move,so that leaves the bushing.
 

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umm... there is no race retainer to fail, it's crafted into the tailhousing, and if something were to damage it i think the whole tailshaft would be noticable damaged as well.

with the tailshaft loose, there is going to be considerable play in the output shaft, as there is nothing holding the bearing in, and it comes loose. rockyraccoon, i would highly advise you to drop your exhaust, upbolt your tranny-to bellhousing bolts, and pull that sucker out of there. it will make your life a whole lot easier for whatever you're trying to do. i know it seems like a bitch pulling the entire tranny, but trying to silicone it up and tighten up the tailshaft housing bolts is going to be trouble too, along with whatever else you plan on doing.

why did you start tearing apart your drivetrain in the first place?? i know it wasn't play in the output shaft because you would have already had to take the DS off to feel that. was there some trouble shifting? weird noises? whats the problem you're trying to fix

how many miles are on the tranny? if there's a lot i would suggest rebuilding it yourself


just my opinions, as i've had tranny problems and been pulling mine in and out of the car for the last 8 months
 
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Sorry I was mistaken. Its the bearing retainer(in the front) which is the part that gets shimmed to reduce endplay. I only mentioned it before because the bearing are tapered and if they get loose they can allow slop. Thanks for the correction.
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Euphoric306 said:
umm... there is no race retainer to fail, it's crafted into the tailhousing, and if something were to damage it i think the whole tailshaft would be noticable damaged as well.

with the tailshaft loose, there is going to be considerable play in the output shaft, as there is nothing holding the bearing in, and it comes loose. rockyraccoon, i would highly advise you to drop your exhaust, upbolt your tranny-to bellhousing bolts, and pull that sucker out of there. it will make your life a whole lot easier for whatever you're trying to do. i know it seems like a bitch pulling the entire tranny, but trying to silicone it up and tighten up the tailshaft housing bolts is going to be trouble too, along with whatever else you plan on doing.
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I agree, except for the tailshaft race. There is a replaceable bushing inside the tailshaft housing, however it rarely fails.

There will always be play on the output and input shaft. After all, you are removing two of the supports. The output shaft slips INSIDE the driveshaft yoke. With the D/S in place there should be no wiggle at all.

Same goes for the input shaft. Guys will yank their trannys out and start wiggling the input shaft side to side and think something is busted. It's not, all t-5's will do that even when new. Gotta remember the snout of the shaft slips inside the pilot bearing. That is what supports it on the other end.

Endplay is what you need to be concerned with. That's the in and out movements of the shafts. Put one hand on the input shaft and one on the output shaft and try to simultanously pull them in and out together. It shouldn't move at all or have about 0.003" of play....which is basically nothing.
 
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