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88_GT_5_oh

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i bought new pintle caps to replace the ones i cracked, now before i am gonna put these back in the motor i wanna be damn sure that they are gonna work properly, is there anyway i can test them? i just don't wanna put them on not knowing for sure, cause the shop that is doing my dyno tuning in spring told me to do the initial fire up of the new motor with the stock ones, i'm not doing all this for a couple months but i wanna be prepared and make sure i have most of the stuff i need before i need it
 

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what do you want to test? test that they physically work or that they dont leak? or something else?
 

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physically work. but while i'm at it how do i check if they leak?....i'm just worried that when i cracked the caps that i may have damaged something, or am i just being paranoid
 
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Was the car running fine before? You changed them only because they where leaking? If yes on both, they are fine. You can do a leak test once you have the injectors, fuel rail, and all fuel lines connected. Turn the key on and off several times. Check for leaks. The pump will run for only a few seconds each time you turn on the ignition. You can check fuel pressure with a gauge and be sure its there. You can use it to bleed air out of the system too. They are only $20 if you are interested in knowing for sure what your FP is.
 

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these are my stock injectors that i took off my old motor. now for the initial break in/fire up of the new motor, the guy at the shop told me to run these stock ones, till i put a blower on, and get tuned (check my sig for details), bassically becasue i broke the caps i wanna make sure that these ones are still good, they never leaked before i just wanna make sure they physically work


on another topic i didn't want to make another thread about, on the left is the new pintle cap, it leaves a bigger space between the o ring and pintl cap, also the needle (?pintle?) that is inside the pintle cap, sits further down than the stock one, is this still ok? sorry for the newb questions but i wanna ge this resolved sooner rather than later when its too late

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ok, i was not sure if you meant an internal leak (the injector pintle was leaking) or external. for an internal leak, Jrichker has a post on a neat test. basically you use a cup of water with a smidge of soap and compressed air on the injector to see if it leaks with pressure. see JR's post for more info.

good luck with it.
 

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The only thing the pintle caps do is keep the O ring from sliding off. They have nothing to do with the fuel spray pattern.

Injector test
1.) I like to use an old injector with compressed air applied to the injector where the fuel rail would normally connect. I hook the whole thing up, apply compressed air to the injector and stick it in a paper cup of soapy water. When the engine cranks with the ignition switch on, if the injector fires, it makes bubbles. Cheap if you have the stuff laying around, and works good too.

There are two 10 pin connectors at the back of the upper manifold, one of them has all 8 injector connections. Pull them apart and check for damage. Each injector should ohm out at about 13 ohms +\- 1.5 ohms. See http://fordfuelinjection.com/index.php?p=6 for a diagram & pinout

Remember that the computer supplies a ground path for the injectors. The power for the injectors comes through the ECC relay located on top of the computer. They have power to them any time the ignition is on. The computer turns on the ground and completes the circuit, making the injectors fire.

2.) Cylinder balance test:
Warm the car's engine up to normal operating temperature. Use a jumper wire or paper clip to put the computer into test mode. Start the engine and let it go through the normal diagnostic tests, then quickly press the throttle to the floor. The engine RPM should exceed 2500 RPM's for a brief second. The engine RPM's will increase to about 1450-1600 RPM and hold steady. The engine will shut off power to each injector, one at a time. When it has sequenced through all 8 injectors, it will flash 99 for everything OK, or the number of the failing cylinder such as 22 for cylinder #2. Quickly pressing the throttle again up to 2500 RPM’s will cause the test to re-run with smaller qualifying figures. Do it a third time, and if the same cylinder shows up, the cylinder is weak and isn’t putting out power like it should. See the Chilton’s Shop manual for the complete test procedure

Here's the link to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great.

See http://www.troublecodes.net/Ford/
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See http://www.dalidesign.com/hbook/eectest.html for more descriptive help
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See http://www.mustangworks.com/articles/electronics/eec-iv_codes.html

For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see http://www.actron.com/product_detail.php?pid=16153 for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at Walmart.
 

88_GT_5_oh

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i think that i'm just being paradoid on this, i just don't wanna fire up my brand new motor that cost me $XXXX and have something stupid like an injector being bad........

from that pic that cap is fine right?
 
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