The best AODE

[GTWayne]

Best AODe

I have talked to most of the after-market tranny places, Art Carr, Level 10, Performance Automatic, and Lentech, and from what I can tell the clutches for the kits are made by Raybestos or Alto. The after-market guys just repackage other companies products. I am pretty sure the mechanical diode that the after-market guys sell is a stock Ford part. Um...there are a few other things out there that are repackaged too, just cant think of them. As I said with my Alto Red Eagle kit, the gaskets in there are packaged by Level 10. I still need to order a few things like the hardened input shaft, deep pan, tranny cooler, shifter, and fluid. Besides the input shaft, the rest will probably come from either Summit or Jeg's.

A question for RC, have you looked at how the shop hooked your tranny cooler up? Is the stock cooler still in place? If not did they just use rubber hose to connect the stock tubing to the new cooler? Thanks for any help you can provide.

Fastman Gt,
I agree with everything you've said and most of the other posts too. It depends on if the original question means they were looking to buy a complete tranny (didn't want to do the rebuild or have the capability, time or skils to do it themselves) or were just wanting to know what specs make the best.
In any case, the premise of building it right in the beginning is the best advice. Well builit AODe or 4R70W are behind some pretty hot motors and work really well.
Heck I know of a 100K stock AOD that's behind a 500HP turbo and still going strong.
Matching the tranny with a good converter is equally important.
I learned my lesson by scrimping in the beginning and going with the less expensive single disk lock up PI stallion because I thought I would be holding off on going beyond a NA set up for a while. Boy was I wrong. NA didn't last a year and here I am adding a blower and knowing I'll have to pull the converter and send it off to upgrade to a multidisk to handle the 420+ rwhp.
Wayne

 

[SuperDust22]

Does it really matter if I get a complete new tanny. I can do I rebuild. I am getting a new H/C/I combo and I want the tanny to keep up and run strong. I have have a few problems before so I thought it might be time for a rebuilt or complete new one. As of right now the rebuilt sounds the best.

 

[94GTLaserRC]

Rebuild is what IM doing....Works for me!
RC

 

[SuperDust22]

with a new valve body will I am able to shift faster. When I use the 1 or 2 gears on my car now it lags with I shift. If that makes sense.

 

[FastmanGT]

Yes, the line pressure will be increased with a new valvebody. That allows for much faster and firmer shifts. I know the feeling that you are talking about with lag...

 

[SuperDust22]

about how much will the rebuilt kit and vavle body help me in the 1/4.

 

[FastmanGT]

Well the rebuild kit will only help if needed, it really wont help with the times unless you has some slippage or anything like that. The valvebody will be a helper in quicker track times, since the shifts will be faster and more firm. A converter will be the best thing you can do to the aod-e, the stock one eats up power.

 

[SuperDust22]

yeah I am getting a new converter soon. I just don't know what stall yet. I don't know what the pro and cons of a high stall are.

 

[unclejackrock]

yeah I am getting a new converter soon. I just don't know what stall yet. I don't know what the pro and cons of a high stall are.

Pro's = More go.
Con's = Nothing. (That I've found)

 

[SuperDust22]

then why doesnt everyone run a 5000 stall

 

[gcomfx.com]

Pro's = More go.
Con's = Nothing. (That I've found)

Pro's = More go.
Con's = More money!

 

[unclejackrock]

then why doesnt everyone run a 5000 stall

Some do. They are mad drag racers that have engines that need to rev to the moon to run 8-9 second 1/4 passes.

The reason why everyone doesn't is because we drive our cars on the street and don't always have the rpm's pegged, so we hit a happy medium. 3000-3800 generally. When I said no con's to a "high stall" converter, I didn't mean a 5000 rpm stall in a street car, you have to balance the stall to the powerband of the motor.

 

[SuperDust22]

i know 5000 is high for a street car. I was just trying to get the point across. What would be a good stall for a street car and also good for the track.

 

[50_Dave]

a guy mentioned to me that some of the con's of a high stall converter are driving up hill on his drive way and it stalling out tons. He also mentioned that reverse makes his car stall out a ton as well.

 

[gcomfx.com]

I would never go above 3,000 but that's me. I'm looking around the 2,600 - 3,000 range personally. Anything has to be better than my current 1400...

 

[94GTLaserRC]

I have a Vortech, and Im barely at 3000 stall!
RC

 

[FastmanGT]

Once I get my car up and running with the 3500 stall and other stuff, I will give you an update on how I like it...I did a ton of research on what I wanted to do with the tranny, and talked to many people. When I talked to PI about the stall, they recommended a 3000-3500 stall, and from what I have read, in most cases people wish they would have gone with a higher stall in the first place...So I went high to start out...

 

[unclejackrock]

Once I get my car up and running with the 3500 stall and other stuff, I will give you an update on how I like it...I did a ton of research on what I wanted to do with the tranny, and talked to many people. When I talked to PI about the stall, they recommended a 3000-3500 stall, and from what I have read, in most cases people wish they would have gone with a higher stall in the first place...So I went high to start out...

You will thank yourself for that. I got a 3000....I would go for a 3500.

...and for the guy with the stalling out issue, he's got other problems...and I bet it's not the converter. That is if it's a good one.

 

[SuperDust22]

does if matter what mods are done for the stall speed?

 

[FastmanGT]

Yes, anything that effects hp or tq can cause a change in stall speed. When PI builds their stall converters for a car, they ask for mods and such, so they know how to set it so you get the desired stall speed.