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Keionte

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Welp,

I am happy to be here, actually. My tuner suggested I create an account here, so I did.

I have an 88 Foxbody with the desire to go FAST!

But, not the 1000 HP in a straight line fast

OR the kick the rear out as long as possible fast
BUT Thee...

"A MUSTANG TAKING CORNERS LIKE A BEEMER?????
FAST!

I have a 302 motor with E303 cams and aluminum heads. Everything else is stock.

I plan on getting every bit of power out of her NA before going TURBO. (I want to supercharge her, but not very many options to choose from...)

I'm going to do long tube headers and a custom exhaust soon after I swap for an IRS and K-members from MMS.

At this point, I am clueless about what to do next since I am new to car building and motors.

Any advice Will be so appreciated!

PS If you have swapped for an IRS< Please hit me up. I want to know all I can about this set up before I break something.
 

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Welcome to Stangnet Gary
 

Keionte

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a91what said:
Welcome to Stangnet Gary
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Thank You!

Here's a video from my "All About My Foxxy Lady" Youtube Series if you care...
LMAO!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC_nO1zQwjk
 

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Welcome to stangnet
Now what did steve do to bribe you to come here?
You appear to be a 'normal' guy, and well, some of us are not
 

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General karthief said:
Welcome to stangnet
Now what did steve do to bribe you to come here?
You appear to be a 'normal' guy, and well, some of us are not
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Normal?


And, he said he'll do my modifies tune for FREE if I added a few posts here.

 

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Keionte said:

Normal?


And, he said he'll do my modifies tune for FREE if I added a few posts here.

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You're gonna have to do more than 'a few posts'.
a burn out
scare the crap out of a wild animal (brothers in law don't count) on video
Or 'flip off ' a random prius owner (this is done at your own risk, new prius cars come stock with an automatic weapon)
 

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General karthief said:
You're gonna have to do more than 'a few posts'.
a burn out
scare the crap out of a wild animal (brothers in law don't count) on video
Or 'flip off ' a random prius owner (this is done at your own risk, new prius cars come stock with an automatic weapon)
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Challenge Accepted!!!
 
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There are lots of ways to get a Mustang to handle like a BMW...

I’m including a link to my YouTube videos. They showcase mods made to my 1992 GT, IRS-swapped 2000 GT, and IRS-swapped 2004 V6 autocross cars. In the videos, I review chassis bracing components, bolt-on power parts, weight-reduction mods, brake upgrades, front suspension, SRA and IRS improvements.

Every part I installed on these cars was put to the test during autocross events. In the crowded CAM PAX class in my two local autocross clubs, these cars took 1st and 2nd in season points in 2016, 2nd and 3rd in 2017 and 2018, and 1st and 2nd in 2019.

If I can do that, anyone can.

I’m not sponsored by any company. I’m not trying to sell anything. I created my channel to inspire people to autocross their Mustangs and help them make informed decisions about what they need and don’t need to make their cars faster on course.

If you have any questions about the mods I made, please ask. I'm happy to help.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOEWzAT17XoeGzSWysT1NXw/videos
 
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Keionte

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Warhorse Racing said:
There are lots of ways to get a Mustang to handle like a BMW...

I’m including a link to my YouTube videos. They showcase mods made to my 1992 GT, IRS-swapped 2000 GT, and IRS-swapped 2004 V6 autocross cars. In the videos, I review chassis bracing components, bolt-on power parts, weight-reduction mods, brake upgrades, front suspension, SRA and IRS improvements.

Every part I installed on these cars was put to the test during autocross events. In the crowded CAM PAX class in my two local autocross clubs, these cars took 1st and 2nd in season points in 2016, 2nd and 3rd in 2017 and 2018, and 1st and 2nd in 2019.

If I can do that, anyone can.

I’m not sponsored by any company. I’m not trying to sell anything. I created my channel to inspire people to autocross their Mustangs and help them make informed decisions about what they need and don’t need to make their cars faster on course.

If you have any questions about the mods I made, please ask. I'm happy to help.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOEWzAT17XoeGzSWysT1NXw/videos
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Thank you!

Watching the vids now
 

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Warhorse Racing said:
There are lots of ways to get a Mustang to handle like a BMW...

I’m including a link to my YouTube videos. They showcase mods made to my 1992 GT, IRS-swapped 2000 GT, and IRS-swapped 2004 V6 autocross cars. In the videos, I review chassis bracing components, bolt-on power parts, weight-reduction mods, brake upgrades, front suspension, SRA and IRS improvements.

Every part I installed on these cars was put to the test during autocross events. In the crowded CAM PAX class in my two local autocross clubs, these cars took 1st and 2nd in season points in 2016, 2nd and 3rd in 2017 and 2018, and 1st and 2nd in 2019.

If I can do that, anyone can.

I’m not sponsored by any company. I’m not trying to sell anything. I created my channel to inspire people to autocross their Mustangs and help them make informed decisions about what they need and don’t need to make their cars faster on course.

If you have any questions about the mods I made, please ask. I'm happy to help.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOEWzAT17XoeGzSWysT1NXw/videos
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WOW!

I just watched your weight reduction video. I already have the smog and a/c delete. I still have to remove the compressor and I have a fiberglass hood that I plan on installing once I get the rest of the stuff fixed.
 

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Keionte said:
WOW!

I just watched your weight reduction video. I already have the smog and a/c delete. I still have to remove the compressor and I have a fiberglass hood that I plan on installing once I get the rest of the stuff fixed.
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I hope the video was helpful. Your mods should help a lot with weight-balance. I can tell you that my Fox felt like a different car with all that weight taken out.
 

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Warhorse Racing said:
I hope the video was helpful. Your mods should help a lot with weight-balance. I can tell you that my Fox felt like a different car with all that weight taken out.
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What do you think about fiberglass fenders?

I'm planning on doing a wide body kit to my car and was going to make a mold out of my fenders anyway, but now I'm thinking of just making a full out fiberglass fender and installing them.

Also, lmr has an irs grip bushing kit for 1k #MM-MMRG21. Do you think that's a good quality buy for what I'm doing?
 
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Warhorse Racing

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What do you think about fiberglass fenders?

I'm planning on doing a wide body kit to my car and was going to make a mold out of my fenders anyway, but now I'm thinking of just making a full out fiberglass fender and installing them.

Also, lmr has an irs grip bushing kit for 1k #MM-MMRG21. Do you think that's a good quality buy for what I'm doing?
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I've never used fiberglass fenders, but fiberglass or carbon fiber fenders would save some weight. But, if I recall correctly, it's only about 10 lbs. for fiberglass and 20 lbs. for carbon fiber fenders. You can usually save more weight for less money (but that might not be true if you're making them yourself).

I got my Fox down to 3,075 lbs. without using a fiberglass hood, a lightweight K-member, lightweight A-arms, an aluminum flywheel, racing seats, or deleting the smog pump. Those mods would get me under 3,000 lbs. and they are relatively easy to install.

I use Full Tilt Boogie Racing parts on both my IRS-swapped cars. They are pricey, but they work extremely well. There are videos on my channel about the FTBR parts I used on my 2004 V6: "Mustang ST Parts 6 & 7".
 

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Warhorse Racing said:
I've never used fiberglass fenders, but fiberglass or carbon fiber fenders would save some weight. But, if I recall correctly, it's only about 10 lbs. for fiberglass and 20 lbs. for carbon fiber fenders. You can usually save more weight for less money (but that might not be true if you're making them yourself).

I got my Fox down to 3,075 lbs. without using a fiberglass hood, a lightweight K-member, lightweight A-arms, an aluminum flywheel, racing seats, or deleting the smog pump. Those mods would get me under 3,000 lbs. and they are relatively easy to install.

I use Full Tilt Boogie Racing parts on both my IRS-swapped cars. They are pricey, but they work extremely well. There are videos on my channel about the FTBR parts I used on my 2004 V6: "Mustang ST Parts 6 & 7".
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Hmm..

Well, I bought the fiberglass hood a little while after I got my car. It was just for looks at the time, but now, I'm thinking... If I shed weight here and there I can put in this or that..

The Smog and A/C delete was already done when I got it. The fenders are something I was going to do anyway since I'm planning on doing flared or something to accommodate the tires I want to put on her.

I didn't PLAN on racing her, but... things change... and I'm starting to get more and more into trying it myself.
 

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Hmm..

Well, I bought the fiberglass hood a little while after I got my car. It was just for looks at the time, but now, I'm thinking... If I shed weight here and there I can put in this or that..

The Smog and A/C delete was already done when I got it. The fenders are something I was going to do anyway since I'm planning on doing flared or something to accommodate the tires I want to put on her.

I didn't PLAN on racing her, but... things change... and I'm starting to get more and more into trying it myself.
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Also,

did you do your swap yourself? If so, where did you do it?

I'm running into major space restraints. I can't find a place that I can do my install and might be forced to pay someone to do it.
 

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Keionte said:
Also,

did you do your swap yourself? If so, where did you do it?

I'm running into major space restraints. I can't find a place that I can do my install and might be forced to pay someone to do it.
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I did the V6 IRS swap in my garage, and the 2000 GT swap in my driveway. There are a lot of little things that can slow down the swap. Planning and prepping is very important. Here are some things to consider:

It can be easier to get the SRA out from the side than the back. Make sure you have enough room around the car.

Having the car high enough to get the IRS subframe rotated up into position makes a big difference.

Make sure to spread the torque boxes before trying to fit the IRS subframe in place, especially with the FTBR bushings.

Make sure to spread the LCA mounting points on the IRS subframe prior to installing the LCAs with new bushings.

Have a plan for your brake lines before you disconnect the OEM lines. MM makes an IRS conversion brake line adapter for Foxes.

It takes two people and an articulating jack to get the IRS pumpkin into place.

The IRS sway bar and UCAs should go on the IRS subframe before it gets installed in the car.

You cannot jack the car up from anywhere on the IRS subframe or pumpkin. Most techs at automotive shops don't know that fact about the Cobra IRS, so make sure to tell them about that.

A Fox Body will require some minor fabrication to ensure the upper IRS brackets are properly secured to the frame. There are several ways to accomplish this (and it's probably covered somewhere on this forum).
 

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Warhorse Racing said:
I did the V6 IRS swap in my garage, and the 2000 GT swap in my driveway. There are a lot of little things that can slow down the swap. Planning and prepping is very important. Here are some things to consider:

It can be easier to get the SRA out from the side than the back. Make sure you have enough room around the car.

Having the car high enough to get the IRS subframe rotated up into position makes a big difference.

Make sure to spread the torque boxes before trying to fit the IRS subframe in place, especially with the FTBR bushings.

Make sure to spread the LCA mounting points on the IRS subframe prior to installing the LCAs with new bushings.

Have a plan for your brake lines before you disconnect the OEM lines. MM makes an IRS conversion brake line adapter for Foxes.

It takes two people and an articulating jack to get the IRS pumpkin into place.

The IRS sway bar and UCAs should go on the IRS subframe before it gets installed in the car.

You cannot jack the car up from anywhere on the IRS subframe or pumpkin. Most techs at automotive shops don't know that fact about the Cobra IRS, so make sure to tell them about that.

A Fox Body will require some minor fabrication to ensure the upper IRS brackets are properly secured to the frame. There are several ways to accomplish this (and it's probably covered somewhere on this forum).
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Thank you SO much for that!

I've seen guys do it in many ways. I' want to do it the way Stang Nation has. It seems to be much sturdier than going through the trunk.

I also hear people sticking with the foxbodys master cylinder, but in your opinion, do you think i should just upgrade it?
 

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I'm glad I could help.

The sturdier the better when it comes to the IRS bracket mounts.

You will have to balance out the braking on the car. The IRS comes with Cobra 11.65" brakes in the rear. They would be bigger than the OEM Fox brakes up front. So, you will want to upgrade to larger front brakes (13" OEM Cobra brakes are the easiest). But, you should upgrade to a 1993 Cobra master cylinder to do the swap. I run Cobra brakes on my 1992 and I used that master cylinder and a proportioning valve to dial-in the brakes. You will also have to gut the factory proportioning valve (along the frame rail) and get a new plug for it.
 

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Warhorse Racing said:
I'm glad I could help.

The sturdier the better when it comes to the IRS bracket mounts.

You will have to balance out the braking on the car. The IRS comes with Cobra 11.65" brakes in the rear. They would be bigger than the OEM Fox brakes up front. So, you will want to upgrade to larger front brakes (13" OEM Cobra brakes are the easiest). But, you should upgrade to a 1993 Cobra master cylinder to do the swap. I run Cobra brakes on my 1992 and I used that master cylinder and a proportioning valve to dial-in the brakes. You will also have to gut the factory proportioning valve (along the frame rail) and get a new plug for it.
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Okay, cool.

So, I'll grab the master cylinder as well.
 

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Warhorse Racing said:
I'm glad I could help.

The sturdier the better when it comes to the IRS bracket mounts.

You will have to balance out the braking on the car. The IRS comes with Cobra 11.65" brakes in the rear. They would be bigger than the OEM Fox brakes up front. So, you will want to upgrade to larger front brakes (13" OEM Cobra brakes are the easiest). But, you should upgrade to a 1993 Cobra master cylinder to do the swap. I run Cobra brakes on my 1992 and I used that master cylinder and a proportioning valve to dial-in the brakes. You will also have to gut the factory proportioning valve (along the frame rail) and get a new plug for it.
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I almost forgot to ask...

Do I need to grab up the aluminum driveshaft or get a different flange?
 
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