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Thunderbird 5.0L compard to 95 5.0L

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Travis95gt

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I have an 1987 thunderbird 5.0L engine, is it a roller ? as well what are the differences between this engine and the one in my 95 GT ??

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I do believe they are roller motors as well. I would think they are identical minus the cams. A 5.0 block is a 5.0 block no matter what car it came from i.e Crown vic's, Explorer, Town car.
 
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The newer mn12? has the same engine. That is the newer t-bird body, not the old style. The 87 had a different cam, came with a different intake manifold i think? But now i am not so sure. Actually they might be the same. So just the cam.
 

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mackey said:
The newer mn12? has the same engine. That is the newer t-bird body, not the old style. The 87 had a different cam, came with a different intake manifold i think? But now i am not so sure. Actually they might be the same. So just the cam.
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The manifolds are the same I believe, my parents had a 88 T-bird with the 5.0 and when compared to 87-93 5.0 Mustang intake, it looked EXACTLY the same, but then again it could have internal differences.
 

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87 T-bird's came with a low output motor(155HP I think)Mustangs came with the HO motor.I think you can tell the difference by looking at which way the rotor spins.
H.O. counterclockwise
L.O. clockwise
 
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The following website has alot of good info on the mid 80's 5.0L Cougars and T-bird's.

http://www.coolcats.net/tech/index.html

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Ok...wanna know the real difference before we get anymore speculated guesses.

Intake - an 87 Thunderbird was a fox. It had a similar looking intake in comparison to the '87-'93 Mustang, but it was not. It did however have the same intake used on the Crown Victoria’s and Grand Marquis of those and later years. Machined for a small throttle body and very restrictive....you'll want to get rid of it.

Camshaft – non HO….lose it too

Block – Non roller

Pistons – Cast, not hypereutectic or forged

Heads – E6AE, same as used on the ’86 Mustang. Not the E7TE used on the ’87-up Mustang or MN12 Thunderbird/Cougar

I’d skip it. If you can find one, get one out of a later MN12 Cougar. They were essentially the same as the engine in the ’95 Mustang, minus the Camshaft (which is the same used in the ’93-95 Cobra…..and crap!)

If you want to go from scratch on a budget and a true HO roller motor isn't available, find yourself an '87-'95 F150 302. They were machined to accept a roller cam and used the same heads that were on the '87-'95 Mustang. From there, swap out the cam, intake and distributor gear and you're set. BTW....these engines use cast dished pistons as well, so I wouldn't push it much past about 250hp without upgrading the slugs.
 
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According to the website I posted (along with other references that I've seen) the cougar's and t-birds do have a roller block.
 

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Silver85TC said:
According to the website I posted (along with other references that I've seen) the cougar's and t-birds do have a roller block.
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I stand corrected.....It was the pre-86's that were non-roller. The 86-88's do come with a roller block although they are not utilized. Regardless, he's still stuck with weak cast pistons, crappy heads and intake, throttle body and a pile of other stuff that will need to be upgraded before it makes any power.

If he can get it cheap (nearly free) it wouldn't be bad, but otherwise it's a lot to pay for an engine that needs nearly an entire rebuild just to perform like stock!
 
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Ouch I have a f150 block in mine. I bet the compression is terrible with the dished pistons. No wonder I get zero detonation...
 
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