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'13_ImpactBlue_GT

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Should I change the rears or leave them alone?
 

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I did the fronts first, and the balance between the fronts and the rears just didn't feel right. Car was bucking forward too much. After putting in the matching rears, all better.
 

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Change them all the way around. But DON'T get Hawk pads. They squeak like hell and create pounds of brake dust. I'll never buy them again.
 
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bdcardinal

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the98stang said:
Change them all the way around. But DON'T get Hawk pads. They squeak like hell and create pounds of brake dust. I'll never buy them again.
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they werent bedded in correctly. i had them on the mustang before it went away. Hawk HPS with brembo rotors, never had a peep out of them.
 

'13_ImpactBlue_GT

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You mean break them in?
 
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bdcardinal

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no, each brake manufacturer has a different bedding procedure for how to drive the first time you use the brakes. when i had the mustang i followed Brembo's procedure and then Hawk's procedure when i did a pad and rotor swap.

by all means do the Cobra rear upgrade. it will balance out the braking nicely. if you want to spend big $$, get the Willwood brakes front and rear.
 

Mustang5L5

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Do it if you don't mind pulling the axles out.

I did the 13's and agree that the balance of the car leaned more heavily to the front towards braking, but i never had the desire to pull axles out to install the rear kit even though it's dirt cheap at $175.

Also it looks funny with massive front rotors and small rear rotors

But my car is a daily driver, so it's not pushed hard too often
 

fobra559

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About how much is the Front and Rear 03-04 Cobra Brake kit? I most likely will get them for the future.
 

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Front kit can be had for $350ish-400 depending on what kind of calipers you buy.



Rear kit is $175 and requires pulling the axles. You can buy cobra calipers or you can modify and use your GT stuff.


www.buyfordracing.com has both kits
 

fobra559

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Mustang5L5 said:
Front kit can be had for $350ish-400 depending on what kind of calipers you buy.



Rear kit is $175 and requires pulling the axles. You can buy cobra calipers or you can modify and use your GT stuff.


www.buyfordracing.com has both kits
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Yikes, I don't want to pull the axles for the rear kit. How much does it cost to modify the GT rear for the Cobra Calipers?
 

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fobra559 said:
Yikes, I don't want to pull the axles for the rear kit. How much does it cost to modify the GT rear for the Cobra Calipers?
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???


The kit is $175 and then you just need to grind your stock calipers for clearance of the rotor

http://www.2kgt.com/item.php?itemid=104


But you gotta pull axles.
 

fobra559

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Mustang5L5 said:
???


The kit is $175 and then you just need to grind your stock calipers for clearance of the rotor

http://www.2kgt.com/item.php?itemid=104


But you gotta pull axles.
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My bad, misunderstood
 

'13_ImpactBlue_GT

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Mustang5L5 said:
???


The kit is $175 and then you just need to grind your stock calipers for clearance of the rotor

http://www.2kgt.com/item.php?itemid=104


But you gotta pull axles.
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How difficult is it to drop them?
 

Mustang5L5

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Not all that bad really. I think refilling the diff with fluid is the hardest part. There are tons of write-ups on pulling axle shafts. Once you do it and see how they are in, you'll be afraid to drive your car again!
 

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Mustang5L5 said:
Not all that bad really. I think refilling the diff with fluid is the hardest part. There are tons of write-ups on pulling axle shafts. Once you do it and see how they are in, you'll be afraid to drive your car again!
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darkside03gt

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Toms_2003_Stang said:
How difficult is it to drop them?
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its not difficult just time consuming. i did my fronts in about a hour per side but, the rears took almost all day. just take your time and make sure you have a manual and a good torque wrench. Most threads will tell you that the anti moan brackets wont fit. but in most cases they do because the U-bolt goes through the shock mount NOT in front of it.
 
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dwphilli

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I am getting ready to change the pads on my 2003 GT. What pads do you recommend?
 
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OK.....so if your doing the rear brakes anyway, it only takes me an extra 5 minutes to pull the axles out. Pop off the cover, remove the center shaft and pull out the c-clips, done. What's the big deal?
 

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Smokeurhonda said:
OK.....so if your doing the rear brakes anyway, it only takes me an extra 5 minutes to pull the axles out. Pop off the cover, remove the center shaft and pull out the c-clips, done. What's the big deal?
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It's not exactly that easy.



I can do the job with my eyes closed, but about a month ago i had to change one of my axles seals that started leaking i was still cursing and hating every second of the job.


Easy job on paper, but PITA when you actually do it.
 
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bdcardinal

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about the hardest parts of pulling the axles are dealing with the smell of the old fluid, and adding the new fluid. everything else is easy with the right tools.
 
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