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5spd GT · Jan 30, 2008

Sleeper/Stock look

Mustang5L5 · Jan 30, 2008

I like something in the middle.

I want a nice looking car, with some tasteful mods that makes it stand out from the crowd....but i wouldn't like going completely overboard with tacky stuff....

however, i am not a fan of POS...no matter how fast it runs.

90five0oh · Jan 30, 2008

iwashmycar said:
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all those notches are badass!!!

LiquidGT · Jan 30, 2008

Would anyone even suspect a CLEAN stock looking fox to run like stock anymore.

My philosophy is to take the ugly out and work on the little details and accentuate the car as a whole, not the big LOOK AT ME stuff that has your eyes bouncing all over the place. We know not to go for the aluminum wing, euro tails, red tint, and stickers, or stuff your grandmother can point out.

That red notch is a perfect example, I couldn’t put my finger on it at first, then I realized it had Capri fenders, they didn’t make Capri notches. Shaved antenna, '87 mirrors and windows, the right wheels, brakes, and stance, the hood works for it, it looks like a road racer. All it's just missing a smooth cowl panel.

sal · Jan 30, 2008

Sleeper!

NKau · Jan 31, 2008

Taz92gt said:
I was kinda leaning toward the sleeper with some Pony R's 17/8's, 17/10's and a new paint job (I think the color is Titanium frost clearcoat metallic "green" over Titanium) which I have only seen 3 other times in 6 years. These pic's are definetly what I want my car to be when it grows up.

The factory emerald green is a sweet color. Maybe just repaint the entire car (including ground effects) emerald green if you're looking to do something different? I'd like to see some better pics of you car as it sits. If the paint is nice and the car is clean, throw on some chrome pony r's on and call it a day.

bloopbloob · Jan 31, 2008

i think if it's a clean and gorgeous stock looking car that hauls balls, that is the coolest thing there is on the road. if it looks even a bit modded, i'd rather have something that turns heads. otherwise what's the point. a couple visible mods and nobody thinks you're 5.0 is a sleeper. they don't even believe it when it looks stock anyways.......

fiveohlxhatch · Jan 31, 2008

On the rear wheels of that Nova are those beadlocks? Sick!

SVT32VDOHC · Jan 31, 2008

Sick cars on this page too!!! DAMN!!

The sleeper is great!!! The black notch above is a perfect example that you do not need drag wheels and tires to go fast. Most of us will never see 9's, and he did with big, heavy FR500's. That means our 10-14 second cars can have big heavy wheels and still go fast for our mods. When that car had 03 anniversary wheels on it a few years back....that car made me build my notch!!! Mine doesn't run 9's but I mean it just made me go find a rust free notch to paint black and run good.

Kevins89notch5.0 · Jan 31, 2008

Sorry, but hardly any mustang is a "sleeper" anymore. Everyone has their own opinion, but mine would be a car that is MUCH faster that only cars that look like it. Go to any track, and you'll see a foxbody with a stock hood running 11s-12s. So, for a fox to be a sleeper it better have a stock hood, and running at least 9s. Other wise, the difference between a cowl hood with Welds, and a stock hood with 10 holes really isn't anything other than money wasted on appearance.

Now a nicely built civic that runs 12s looking stock would be a sleeper. A sprayed LSI RX7 thats running low 11s/high 10s would be a sleeper. Like I said, its all about going much fast that other cars that look like that.

25thmustang · Jan 31, 2008

I agree, today 10s is what a few select factory vehicles run. You better be running some damn good numbers to be thought of as a sleeper!

85_SS_302_Coupe · Jan 31, 2008

fiveohlxhatch said:
On the rear wheels of that Nova are those beadlocks? Sick!

Well sort of....that's the old school beadlocks....or in layman's terms there's a bunch of screws drilled through the rim and into the bead of the tire to keep it from spinning on the rim.

MaxTheHooker · Jan 31, 2008

I disagree with this whole "you better run 10 seconds" bull ****...

i own a 1983 Chrysler Fifth Avenue... Look it up. It came with a stock 318 and was basically a grandma's car. Now, in your head, imagine a ****ing BUILT 440 big block under the hood with a direct port 200 shot (kicking it up to 300 when i get the new heads on it) and a dual quad setup. 727 torqueflight with a manual valve body, dana rear with 3.73's (maybe 4.10's - haven't decided yet). This car is 5000 lb's of straight up muscle, stock hood, stock interior, stock everything cept the draglights on the fronts and back (i don't even have skinnies or any of that bs on it). But it probably wouldn't do better than 11's at the track. are you really going to tell me that my car isn't a sleeper, just because i'm not in the 10's? ****, that car could run 12's for all i care - it's a sleeper and a half.

I went to one car show over a year ago at English Town in New Jersey and ALL day i had people coming up to me and saying "jesus christ, my grandmother used to own one of those"... some guy and a photographer came up to me and started snapping pictures, asking questions, and told me that they loved the fact that the interior in it was 100 percent stock (and pretty torn up, if i might add). they said "this thing will lay it down like nothing, and you'd never even guess it". I'm sorry, but if you guys don't consider that a sleeper, then i have no idea what one is.

my buddy's got a 10 second civic bubble, two tone paint, carbon hood, and slicks - **** is WORKED. would you call that more of a sleeper than my car? i don't think so.

fiveohwblow · Jan 31, 2008

NKau said:
The factory emerald green is a sweet color. Maybe just repaint the entire car (including ground effects) emerald green if you're looking to do something different? I'd like to see some better pics of you car as it sits. If the paint is nice and the car is clean, throw on some chrome pony r's on and call it a day.

You think so? Does anyone have a photo of said all emerald green fox?

lang williams · Jan 31, 2008

I don't think of a 10 second car when I think sleeper, I think "faster than it looks or you expect". If a car looks like a basic bolt on 5.0 that should run high 13's an it actually runs mid 11's, I"d say that qualifies as a sleeper.

foxmustangman · Jan 31, 2008

^ I agree. I love sleepers, especially because the big thing is to make your car look fast when its mostly stock. I like a few good looking modifications. But sleeper is the way to go!!!

LiquidGT · Feb 1, 2008

fiveohwblow said:
You think so? Does anyone have a photo of said all emerald green fox?

If you squint hard enough you might see a GT.
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I can remember what car is in my 10yr old magizines.

dcurtis · Feb 1, 2008

The sleeper, or what I assumed was a sleeper in centerville actually ran like a 6.73 if I remember corectly, we do only have a 1,ooo foot track though.

25thmustang · Feb 1, 2008

MaxTheHooker said:
I disagree with this whole "you better run 10 seconds" bull ****...

i own a 1983 Chrysler Fifth Avenue... Look it up. It came with a stock 318 and was basically a grandma's car. Now, in your head, imagine a ****ing BUILT 440 big block under the hood with a direct port 200 shot (kicking it up to 300 when i get the new heads on it) and a dual quad setup. 727 torqueflight with a manual valve body, dana rear with 3.73's (maybe 4.10's - haven't decided yet). This car is 5000 lb's of straight up muscle, stock hood, stock interior, stock everything cept the draglights on the fronts and back (i don't even have skinnies or any of that bs on it). But it probably wouldn't do better than 11's at the track. are you really going to tell me that my car isn't a sleeper, just because i'm not in the 10's? ****, that car could run 12's for all i care - it's a sleeper and a half.

I went to one car show over a year ago at English Town in New Jersey and ALL day i had people coming up to me and saying "jesus christ, my grandmother used to own one of those"... some guy and a photographer came up to me and started snapping pictures, asking questions, and told me that they loved the fact that the interior in it was 100 percent stock (and pretty torn up, if i might add). they said "this thing will lay it down like nothing, and you'd never even guess it". I'm sorry, but if you guys don't consider that a sleeper, then i have no idea what one is.

my buddy's got a 10 second civic bubble, two tone paint, carbon hood, and slicks - **** is WORKED. would you call that more of a sleeper than my car? i don't think so.

I assumed we meant Mustangs, and to me seeing as my dads ran mid 7s in the 1/8th with not only a stock body, but looked near stock under the hood (would have been a deep 11s even 10 second car on a shot) I just can't look at an 11 second fox as being a sleeper. Now if it was on 10 holes and under hood looked bone stock I would think sleeper if it went 11s, but any fox with bigs and littles to me looks like it should run 11s all day.

Other cars have other cut off times. a Diesel truck looking stock and going low 13s or better is a sleeper. Your car if it actually runs the numbers you claim could be a sleeper. That Nova above is the perfect example, I just think a sleeper should not only be fast but should be faster than most cars it will come against.

blackened88lx · Feb 1, 2008

I think a lot of it depends on where you are. If you're driving around my home town, my bolt on fox that looks stock because it is stock would be a huge sleeper because it's quicker than all the other stock foxes around here... If I went to the track with it looking like it does and it ran 11s a lot of people there wouldn't consider it a sleeper. There's no real sleeper Mustangs to a real Mustang enthusiast though. Once you've been around these cars long enough, a quick look over of the car, and hearing it run will generally tell you if it's fast or not. In the end, the only reason I could see to build a sleeper car would be to make money, but who's gonna race a car for money without at least looking under the hood, which will give it away.

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