Tonight Saddam will hang...

we should pull out the troops and let those people deal with it on their own, end of story. i feel terrible hearing the news every day about US troops getting killed. its a hopeless situation over there, its really a no win situation.

I've been saying the same thing since '41. Screw going to war. If those Jews didn't want to be exterminated, they should have fought the Germans themselves. :rolleyes:
 
let the son of a b-tch hang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wtf you want from him? that's a good dude , every day he is saying "good morning" and "have a nice day" , can't beat that .He used to be a scout , always wash the dishes you know friendly guy who stops on highway to help poeple change flat tire
 
i agree bush needs to be right behind sadaam hes a ****ing joke!!!!

he attacked inocent people ...he was behind the whole 9/11, he has done nothing for this country

all of our jobs are leaving

there is a war over nothing

the us is falling apart we need to get our **** together and bush needs to get out, he has messed everything up and who ever goes into the white house after him will have to spend there first full term fixing all of his mistakes!!!
 
i agree bush needs to be right behind sadaam hes a ****ing joke!!!!

he attacked inocent people ...he was behind the whole 9/11,

LOL

He must've started it all when he was the governor of Texas seeing as to how he was only President for 9 months.:rlaugh:

Also, if Bush DID know 9/11 was going to happen; what do you think all the f-ing liberals would've said if we went into Afghanistan and killed everyone before a single American died?

LOL...there must be a lot serious critical thinking going on before some of these posts are made.
 
all of our jobs are leaving

I wouldn't point fingers at the conservatives. It's minimum wage and US labor laws(and unions) that are sending companies to look elsewhere. I know I'm pretty conservative and I'm REAL big on minimum wage.:rolleyes:

there is a war over nothing

War over a tea tax is nothing. Toppling a dictator and eliminating terrorists is something that needs to be done. Its just too bad we're "friendly" with Saudi, they support terror groups more than Saddam and his friends did.

he has messed everything up and who ever goes into the white house after him will have to spend there first full term fixing all of his mistakes!!!

The 3,000 that died on 9/11 can say the same about Clinton and the way he dealt with the intelligence that was presented to him.
 
honestly man you can try and justify any way you want---colateral, non-uniformed, we are at war, whatever. the fact remains that the US military has accounted for more iraqi casualties than saddam ever did. all because of an order(direct or indirect) that our commander in chief made.

Well I agree about that. But the US military is amde of thousands of people VS the one man (Saddam) who killed more people than any one of our troops did. And I know out military did some bad things and I dont agree with some of it, but like you said, "war is hell".

as for the coward part, when americans did it they were called patriots. i am not trying to defend there actions, but they are more justified in there cause than we are in ours. and if you believe the human shield type of stuff you need to understand that MOST of that is propaganda by our media outlets.
I hate most of the media nowadays. Almost all of it is liberal bull****. No offense to some of the liberals, but most of the stations say what they want you to beleive.

i know we will never agree on this and i am not trying to make this personal, i just feel very strongly about this--as do you. so we should prolly just end this and be happy that we are in a situation comfortable enough that we can sit around and discuss this. happy new years.
I never make things personal, especially on this forum. I know people all have different opinions and I respect that. I am more of a "discussion" guy than an argument guy.
In the end I am always friends with anyone I have a "discussion" with.

Except for this one guy that comes to where I work. Man hes an idiot. lol
 
wtf you want from him? that's a good dude , every day he is saying "good morning" and "have a nice day" , can't beat that .He used to be a scout , always wash the dishes you know friendly guy who stops on highway to help poeple change flat tire

And then tourtures you with a power drill...

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he attacked inocent people ...he was behind the whole 9/11, he has done nothing for this country

You are joking right?

I agree that the country is going to ****, but one thing alot of people dont realise is that the President isnt the ruler of the country. Almost all of his decisions are influinced by other countries, people, and of course, BIG businesses.
 
Bimmertech, you started a flame war. But since it's already smoldering, let's keep things straight. If Bush lied about weapons of mass distruction, then so did Clinton, George H. W. Bush, the CIA, the FBI, the NSA (all of the last three under multiple administrations), Blair, the UN, Annon, Russia, China ... oh hell, the whole freeking world knew he had them. We saw him use them on his own people and on Iran. Then he shipped them to neighbors and destroyed much of it.

But you clearly have the best take on all of this. Ya, Bush lied. He made it all up. Paid off the world to go along with his scheme. Yep. Makes perfect sense now.
 
I saw a program a while back that said that there were actually weapons of mass destruction. But they just didnt want the public to know about it.

Might be one of those bull**** hoaxes like that one that says 9/11 was done by the US. But might not be. :shrug:

And everyone calm down. This isnt a flame war. its a DISCUSSION. Everyone has different views.
 
Bimmertech, you started a flame war. But since it's already smoldering, let's keep things straight. If Bush lied about weapons of mass distruction, then so did Clinton, George H. W. Bush, the CIA, the FBI, the NSA (all of the last three under multiple administrations), Blair, the UN, Annon, Russia, China ... oh hell, the whole freeking world knew he had them. We saw him use them on his own people and on Iran. Then he shipped them to neighbors and destroyed much of it.

The US acted hastily on false intelligence. This has been documented many times, and it's pretty obvious if you do your own independent research.

Any weapons used during Iraq-Iran were sold to Iraq by the US vis-a-vis the CIA.

There was a reason the UN did not give the US clearance to go into Iraq. The intelligence was not correct, and it was obvious. Colin Powell knew it was lies. Indeed, this is why he left his post as secretary of state.
 
I personally wouldn't be surprised if the gov't knew things that we don't. In fact I kind of count on it. I don't think the American people as a whole are smart enough to handle certain amounts of information.
Hell, most people in charge of intelligence don't even know which groups in the Middle East are our enemies, much less every other moron on the street that opens their mouth about political crap they don't understand.:notnice:

I can agree with the idea that things should not be kept secret(no one likes being left out), but before we can start releasing valuable info., much of our soceity needs extensive education.

I never make things personal, especially on this forum. I know people all have different opinions and I respect that. I am more of a "discussion" guy than an argument guy.
In the end I am always friends with anyone I have a "discussion" with.

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I just prefer hearing from people that actually educate themselves about the issue before opening their mouths, even if they're on the other side of the fence.
I've just heard so many unfounded "Bush sucks" comments from whiney ass emo kids that it's not even funny. A real discussion is way better.:nice:
 
....and so, back to the topic of this thread. saddam is no more and nothing is going to change it. at least it wasn't our court system he had to go through. just imagine the fiasco of a media circus that would have been(not to mention how long it would have taken)!! h would have died of old age before he even went to trial :mad:
gotta love the law at work....:rlaugh:
 
I'm not even going to bother right now being part of this post because this is pointless we have a retarded president

yeah I said it....The whole ****ing world is laughing at us:lol:

And by the way there hasnt been a war in IRAQ for years....thats the worst part Its a piece keeping mission. We have done one before I dont know if you guys recall.
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Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.:nice:

I am pretty arch-conservative, and I gotta tell you guys... Bush is a retard.

I won't get into this cause it pisses me off, but lets just say that letting a bunch of arm-chair generals plan the war and postwar, AND letting yourself be hamstrung by the media and political correctness will make sure you lose every time.

Bunch of GIs chase a bunch of terrorists into a mosque, they gotta stop firing cause they might damage it while the terrorists stick guns out the window and take pot shots. Unbelievable. If that was WW2 that building would have been pancaked. We stick prisoners in a jail, where the average prisoner GAINS 19 POUNDS, has AC, and cable, and make him look at naked girls, and we are the equivalent of Viet Cong.

Old black women get strip searched at airplanes while Muslim women in burkas get a free pass because we don't want to racially profile anyone.

Going to war with these kid gloves on just blows my mind. If you're gonna do something, do it right. I am all for the war, but I think its laughable to argue that Bush isn't the worst war time president in history.

Adam