Tonight Saddam will hang...

'66 coupe said:

I wouldn't point fingers at the conservatives. It's minimum wage and US labor laws(and unions) that are sending companies to look elsewhere. I know I'm pretty conservative and I'm REAL big on minimum wage.



War over a tea tax is nothing. Toppling a dictator and eliminating terrorists is something that needs to be done. Its just too bad we're "friendly" with Saudi, they support terror groups more than Saddam and his friends did.



The 3,000 that died on 9/11 can say the same about Clinton and the way he dealt with the intelligence that was presented to him.

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66........................commendable retorts..........

well this thread really jumped off the topic lol we can oviously tell some people on this board are for bush and some against him, everyone has there reasons for there beliefs and thats why we are a free country.

haha, i think it's somewhat humorous.....it's good to see that you guys are passionate about governments and whatnot

We don't worry about our leaders here in Canada....a few years ago, our old Prime Minister got a pie slapped in his face during some sort of event....

not long after, he got Chocolate milk thrown on him in a small town on Prince Edward Island

during his stint, this same man, Jean Chretien, had 2 intruders enter his home after they got past security. Our fearless leader beat the crap out of them both by himself....

He also was televised choking a reporter...

Our politics are fun up here.

Edit: Although I fully support all of our North American soldiers overseas fighting for freedom, (I have been overseas myself, and will go over again) I don't agree with alot of the reasons in which we're over there....

This man had the balls to tell Mr. Bush that, although he fully supported the war on terror in Afghanistan, he would not support the missions in Iraq.

Long Live this hardcore dude, Jean Chretien! (yes he is really that ugly)

in my view, the war is suppose to be with bin laden and the taliban, but because they (CAN'T ?) find him, bush and the other powers to be decided to try and find a connection to make it justified.....we had saddam back in desert storm, but they decided to give him another chance and what did he do, still make his weapons....

xr8d302 said:

haha, i think it's somewhat humorous.....it's good to see that you guys are passionate about governments and whatnot

We don't worry about our leaders here in Canada....a few years ago, our old Prime Minister got a pie slapped in his face during some sort of event....

not long after, he got Chocolate milk thrown on him in a small town on Prince Edward Island

during his stint, this same man, Jean Chretien, had 2 intruders enter his home after they got past security. Our fearless leader beat the crap out of them both by himself....

He also was televised choking a reporter...

Our politics are fun up here.

Edit: Although I fully support all of our North American soldiers overseas fighting for freedom, (I have been overseas myself, and will go over again) I don't agree with alot of the reasons in which we're over there....

This man had the balls to tell Mr. Bush that, although he fully supported the war on terror in Afghanistan, he would not support the missions in Iraq.

Long Live this hardcore dude, Jean Chretien! (yes he is really that ugly)

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Jean Chretien is the ****nit.

strangling photo:


his take on marijuana:

"I will have my money for my fine [in one hand]," he declared, "and a joint in the other hand!"

hahaha.....this country should re-elect that man, simply because he chokes out reporters

it seems like the people who support bush have the same 2 excuses.

A. your a Liberal

B. It's Clintons fault

and Ben i would like to shake your hand and buy you a beer. cause you have balls my friend.

so here i'll give you 100 facts about our president and 1 truely honest opinion. since everyone who's not a bush support is stupid and not as smart and doesn't research like Bush supporters do.

IRAQ

1. The Bush Administration has spent more than $140 billion on a war of choice in Iraq.

Source: American Progress

2. The Bush Administration sent troops into battle without adequate body armor or armored Humvees.

Sources: Fox News, Boston Globe

3. The Bush Administration ignored estimates from Gen. Eric Shinseki that several hundred thousand troops would be required to secure Iraq.

Source: PBS

4. Vice President Cheney said Americans "will, in fact, be greeted as liberators" in Iraq.

Source: Washington Post

5. During the Bush Administration's war in Iraq, more than 1,000 US troops have lost their lives and more than 7,000 have been injured.

Source: globalsecurity.org

6. In May 2003, President Bush landed on an aircraft carrier in a flight suit, stood under a banner proclaiming "Mission Accomplished," and triumphantly announced that major combat operations were over in Iraq. Asked if he had any regrets about the stunt, Bush said he would do it all over again.

Source: Yahoo News

7. Vice President Cheney said that Iraq was "the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault for many years, but most especially on 9/11." The bipartisan 9/11 Commission found that Iraq had no involvement in the 9/11 attacks and no collaborative operational relationship with Al Qaeda.

Source: MSNBC , 9-11 Commission

8. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice said that high-strength aluminum tubes acquired by Iraq were "only really suited for nuclear weapons programs," warning "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud." The government's top nuclear scientists had told the Administration the tubes were "too narrow, too heavy, too long" to be of use in developing nuclear weapons and could be used for other purposes.

Source: New York Times

9. The Bush Administration has spent just $1.1 billion of the $18.4 billion Congress approved for Iraqi reconstruction.

Source: USA Today

10. According to the Administration's handpicked weapon's inspector, Charles Duelfer, there is "no evidence that Hussein had passed illicit weapons material to al Qaeda or other terrorist organizations, or had any intent to do so." After the release of the report, Bush continued to insist, "There was a risk--a real risk--that Saddam Hussein would pass weapons, or materials, or information to terrorist networks."

Sources: New York Times, White House news release

11. According to Duelfer, the UN inspections regime put an "economic strangle hold" on Hussein that prevented him from developing a WMD program for more than twelve years.

Source: Los Angeles Times

TERRORISM

12. After receiving a memo from the CIA in August 2001 titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack America," President Bush continued his monthlong vacation.

Source: CNN.com

13. The Bush Administration failed to commit enough troops to capture Osama bin Laden when US forces had him cornered in the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan in November 2001. Instead, they relied on local warlords.

Source: csmonitor.com

14. The Bush Administration secured less nuclear material from sites around the world vulnerable to terrorists in the two years after 9/11 than were secured in the two years before 9/11.

Source: nti.org

15. The Bush Administration underfunded Nunn-Lugar--the program intended to keep the former Soviet Union's nuclear legacy out of the hands of terrorists and rogue states--by $45.5 million.

Source: armscontrol.org

16. The Bush Administration has assigned five times as many agents to investigate Cuban embargo violations as it has to track Osama bin Laden's and Saddam Hussein's money.

Source: Associated Press

17. According to Congressional Research Service data, the Bush Administration has underfunded security at the nation's ports by more than $1 billion for fiscal year 2005.

Source: American Progress

18. The Bush Administration did not devote the resources necessary to prevent a resurgence in the production of poppies, the raw material used to create heroin, in Afghanistan--creating a potent new source of financing for terrorists.

Source: Pakistan Tribune

19. Vice President Cheney told voters that unless they elect George Bush in November, "we'll get hit again" by terrorists.

Source: Washington Post

20. Even though an Al Qaeda training manual suggests terrorists come to the United States and buy assault weapons, the Bush Administration did nothing to prevent the expiration of the ban.

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

21. Despite repeated calls for reinforcements, there are fewer experienced CIA agents assigned to the unit dealing with Osama bin Laden now than there were before 9/11.

Source: New York Times

22. Before 9/11, John Ashcroft proposed slashing counterterrorism funding by 23 percent.

Source: americanprogress.org

23. Between January 20, 2001, and September 10, 2001, the Bush Administration publicly mentioned Al Qaeda one time.

Source: commondreams.org

24. The Bush Administration granted the 9/11 Commission $3 million to investigate the September 11 attacks and $50 million to the commission that investigated the Columbia space shuttle crash.

Source: commondreams.org

25. More than three years after 9/11, just 5 percent of all cargo--including cargo transported on passenger planes--is screened.

Source: commondreams.org

NATIONAL SECURITY

26. During the Bush Administration, North Korea quadrupled its suspected nuclear arsenal from two to eight weapons.

Source: New York Times

27. The Bush Administration has openly opposed the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, undermining nuclear nonproliferation efforts.

Source: commondreams.org

28. The Bush Administration has spent $7 billion this year--and plans to spend $10 billion next year--for a missile defense system that has never worked in a test that wasn't rigged.

Sources: www.gao.gov/new.items/d04409.pdf, Los Angeles Times

29. The Bush Administration underfunded the needs of the nation's first responders by $98 billion, according to a Council on Foreign Relations study.

Source: nationaldefensemagazine.org

CRONYISM AND CORRUPTION

30. The Bush Administration awarded a multibillion-dollar no-bid contract to Halliburton--a company that still pays Vice President Cheney hundreds of thousands of dollars in deferred compensation each year (Cheney also has Halliburton stock options). The company then repeatedly overcharged the military for services, accepted kickbacks from subcontractors and served troops dirty food.

Sources: The Washington Post, The Taipei Times, BBC News

31. The Bush Administration told Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan about plans to go to war with Iraq before telling Secretary of State Colin Powell.

Source: detnews.com

32. The Bush Administration relentlessly pushed an energy bill containing $23.5 billion in corporate tax breaks, much of which would have benefited major campaign contributors.

taxpayer.net, Washington Post

33. The Bush Administration paid Iraqi-exile and neocon darling Ahmad Chalabi $400,000 a month for intelligence, including fabricated claims about Iraqi WMD. It continued to pay him for months after discovering that he was providing inaccurate information.

Source: MSNBC

34. The Bush Administration installed as top officials more than 100 former lobbyists, attorneys or spokespeople for the industries they oversee.

Source: Source: commondreams.org

35. The Bush Administration let disgraced Enron CEO Ken Lay--a close friend of President Bush--help write its energy policy.

Source: MSNBC

36. Top Bush Administration officials accepted $127,600 in jewelry and other presents from the Saudi royal family in 2003, including diamond-and-sapphire jewelry valued at $95,500 for First Lady Laura Bush.

Source: Seattle Times

37. Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge awarded lucrative contracts to several companies in which he is an investor, including Microsoft, GE, Sprint, Pfizer and Oracle.

Source: cq.com

38. President Bush used images of firefighters carrying flag-draped coffins through the rubble of the World Trade Center to score political points in a campaign advertisement.

Source: Washington Post

THE ECONOMY

39. President Bush's top economic adviser, Greg Mankiw, said the outsourcing of American jobs abroad was "a plus for the economy in the long run."

Source: CBS News

40. The Bush Administration turned a $236 billion surplus into a $422 billion deficit.

Sources: Fortune, dfw.com

41. The Bush Administration implemented regulations that made millions of workers ineligible for overtime pay.

Source: epinet.org

42. The Bush Administration has crippled state budgets by underfunding federal mandates by $175 billion.

Source: cbpp.org

43. President Bush is the first President since Herbert Hoover to have a net loss of jobs--around 800,000--over a four-year term.

Source: The Guardian

44. The Bush Administration gave Accenture a multibillion-dollar border control contract even though the company moved its operations to Bermuda to avoid paying taxes.

Sources: New York Times, cantonrep.com

45. In 2000, candidate George W. Bush said "the vast majority of my tax cuts go to the bottom end of the spectrum." He passed the tax cuts, but the top 20 percent of earners received 68 percent of the benefits.

Sources: cbpp.org, vote-smart.org

46. In 2000, candidate George W. Bush promised to pay down the national debt to a historically low level. As of September 30, the national debt stood at $7,379,052,696,330.32, a record high.

Sources: www.georgewbush.com , Bureau of the Public Debt

47. As major corporate scandals rocked the nation's economy, the Bush Administration reduced the enforcement of corporate tax law--conducting fewer audits, imposing fewer penalties, pursuing fewer prosecutions and making virtually no effort to prosecute corporate tax crimes.

Source: iht.com

48. The Bush Administration increased tax audits for the working poor.

Source: theolympian.com

49. In 2000, candidate George W. Bush promised to protect the Social Security surplus. As President, he spent all of it.

Sources: georgewbush.com, Congressional Budget Office

50. The Bush Administration proposed slashing funding for the largest federal public housing program, putting 2 million families in danger of losing their housing.

Source: San Francisco Examiner

51. The Bush Administration did nothing to prevent the minimum wage from falling to an inflation-adjusted fifty-year low.

Source: Los Angeles Times

EDUCATION

52. The Bush Administration underfunded the No Child Left Behind Act by $9.4 billion.

Source: nwitimes.com

53. In 2000, candidate George W. Bush promised to increase the maximum federal scholarship, or Pell Grant, by 50 percent. Instead, each year he has been in office he has frozen or cut the maximum scholarship amount.

Source: Source: edworkforce.house.gov x

54. The Bush Administration's Secretary of Education, Rod Paige, called the National Education Association--a union of teachers--a "terrorist organization."

Sources: CNN.com

HEALTHCARE

55. The Bush Administration, in violation of the law, refused to allow Medicare actuary Richard Foster to tell members of Congress the actual cost of their Medicare bill. Instead, they repeated a figure they knew was $100 billion too low.

Source: Washington Post, realcities.com

56. The nonpartisan GAO concluded the Bush Administration created illegal, covert propaganda--in the form of fake news reports--to promote its industry-backed Medicare bill.

Source: General Accounting Office

57. The Bush Administration stunted research that could lead to new treatments for Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, diabetes, spinal injuries, heart disease and muscular dystrophy by placing severe restrictions on the use of federal dollars for embryonic stem-cell research.


Source: CBS News

58. The Bush Administration reinstated the "global gag rule," which requires foreign NGOs to withhold information about legal abortion services or lose US funds for family planning.

Source: healthsciences.columbia.edu

59. The Bush Administration authorized twenty companies that have been charged with fraud at the federal or state level to offer Medicare prescription drug cards to seniors.

Source: American Progress

60. The Bush Administration created a prescription drug card for Medicare that locks seniors into one card for up to a year but allows the corporations offering the cards to change their prices once a week.

Source: Washington Post

61. The Bush Administration blocked efforts to allow Medicare to negotiate cheaper prescription drug prices for seniors.

Source: American Progress

62. At the behest of the french fry industry, the Bush Administration USDA changed their definition of fresh vegetables to include frozen french fries.


Source: commondreams.org

63. In a case before the Supreme Court, the Bush Administrations sided with HMOs--arguing that patients shouldn't be allowed to sue HMOs when they are improperly denied treatment. With the Administration's help, the HMOs won.

Source: ABC News

64. The Bush Administration went to court to block lawsuits by patients who were injured by defective prescription drugs and medical devices.

Source: Washington Post

65. President Bush signed a Medicare law that allows companies that reduce healthcare benefits for retirees to receive substantial subsidies from the government.

Source: Bloomberg News

66. Since President Bush took office, more than 5 million people have lost their health insurance.

Source: CNN.com

67. The Bush Administration blocked a proposal to ban the use of arsenic-treated lumber in playground equipment, even though it conceded it posed a danger to children.

Source: Miami Herald

68. One day after President Bush bragged about his efforts to help seniors afford healthcare, the Administration announced the largest dollar increase of Medicare premiums in history.

Source: iht.com

69. The Bush Administration--at the behest of the tobacco industry--tried to water down a global treaty that aimed to help curb smoking.

Source: tobaccofreekids.org

70. The Bush Administration has spent $270 million on abstinence-only education programs even though there is no scientific evidence demonstrating that they are effective in dissuading teenagers from having sex or reducing the transmission of sexually transmitted diseases.

Source: salon.com

71. The Bush Administration slashed funding for programs that suggested ways, other than abstinence, to avoid sexually transmitted diseases.

Source: LA Weekly

ENVIRONMENT

72. The Bush Administration gutted clean-air standards for aging power plants, resulting in at least 20,000 premature deaths each year.

Source: cta.policy.net

73. The Bush Administration eliminated protections on more than 200 million acres of public lands.

Source: calwild.org

74. President Bush broke his promise to place limits on carbon dioxide emissions, an essential step in combating global warming.

Source: Washington Post

75. Days after 9/11, the Bush Administration told people living near Ground Zero that the air was safe--even though they knew it wasn't--subjecting hundreds of people to unnecessary, debilitating ailments.

Sierra Club , EPA

76. The Bush Administration created a massive tax loophole for SUVs--allowing, for example, the write-off of the entire cost of a new Hummer.

Source: Washington Post

77. The Bush Administration put former coal-industry big shots in the government and let them roll back safety regulations, putting miners at greater risk of black lung disease.

Source: New York Times

78. The Bush Administration said that even though the weed killer atrazine was seeping into water supplies--creating, among other bizarre creatures, hermaphroditic frogs--there was no reason to regulate it.

Source: Washington Post

79. The Bush Administration has proposed cutting the budget of the Environmental Protection Agency by $600 million next year.

Source: ems.org

80. President Bush broke his campaign promise to end the maintenance backlog at national parks. He has provided just 7 percent of the funds needed, according to National Park Service estimates.

Source: bushgreenwatch.org

RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES

81. Since 9/11, Attorney General John Ashcroft has detained 5,000 foreign nationals in antiterrorism sweeps; none have been convicted of a terrorist crime.

Source: hrwatch.org

82. The Bush Administration ignored pleas from the International Committee of the Red Cross to stop the abuse of prisoners in US custody.

Source: Wall Street Journal

83. In violation of international law, the Bush Administration hid prisoners from the Red Cross so the organization couldn't monitor their treatment.

Source: hrwatch.org

84. The Bush Administration, without ever charging him with a crime, arrested US citizen José Padilla at an airport in Chicago, held him on a naval brig in South Carolina for two years, denied him access to a lawyer and prohibited any contact with his friends and family.

Source: news.findlaw.com

85. President Bush's top legal adviser wrote a memo to the President advising him that he can legally authorize torture.

Source: news.findlaw.com

86. At the direction of Bush Administration officials, the FBI went door to door questioning people planning on protesting at the 2004 political conventions.

Source: New York Times

87. The Bush Administration refuses to support the creation of an independent commission to investigate the abuse of foreign prisoners in American custody. Instead, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld selected the members of a commission to review the conduct of his own department.

Source: humanrightsfirst.org

FLIP FLOPS

88. President Bush opposed the creation of the 9/11 Commission before he supported it, delaying an essential inquiry into one of the greatest intelligence failure in American history.

Source: americanprogressaction.org

89. President Bush said gay marriage was a state issue before he supported a constitutional amendment banning it.

Sources: CNN.com, White House

90. President Bush said he was committed to capturing Osama bin Laden "dead or alive" before he said, "I truly am not that concerned about him."

Source: americanprogressaction.org

91. President Bush said we had found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, before he admitted we hadn't found them.

Sources: White House, americanprogress.org

92. President Bush said, "You can't distinguish between Al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror," before he admitted Saddam had no role in 9/11.

Sources: White House, Washington Post

BIOGRAPHY

93. George Bush didn't come close to meeting his commitments to the National Guard. Records show he performed no service in a six-month period in 1972 and a three-month period in 1973.

Source: Boston Globe

94. In June 1990 George Bush violated federal securities law when he failed to inform the SEC that he had sold 200,000 shares of his company, Harken Energy. Two months later the company reported significant losses and by the end of that year the stock had dropped from $3 to $1.

Source: The Guardian

95. When asked at an April 2004 press conference to name a mistake he made during his presidency, Bush couldn't think of one.

Source: White House

SECRECY

96. The Bush Administration refuses to release twenty-seven pages of a Congressional report that reportedly detail the Saudi Arabian government's connections to the 9/11 hijackers.

Source: Philadelphia Inquirer

97. Last year the Bush Administration spent $6.5 billion creating 14 million new classified documents and securing old secrets--the highest level of spending in ten years.

Source: openthegovernment.org

98. The Bush Administration spent $120 classifying documents for every $1 it spent declassifying documents.

Source: openthegovernment.org

99. The Bush Administration has spent millions of dollars and defied numerous court orders to conceal from the public who participated in Vice President Cheney's 2001 energy task force.

Source: Washington Post

100. The Bush Administration--reversing years of bipartisan tradition--refuses to answer requests from Democratic members of Congress about how the White House is spending taxpayer money.

Source: Washington Post

OPINION

If the past informs the future, four more years of the Bush Administration will be a tragic period in the history of the United States and the world.

RAD said:

wtf you want from him? that's a good dude , every day he is saying "good morning" and "have a nice day" , can't beat that .He used to be a scout , always wash the dishes you know friendly guy who stops on highway to help poeple change flat tire

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what the ***** are u smoking?

Black95GTS said:

I am pretty arch-conservative, and I gotta tell you guys... Bush is a retard.

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I agree with everything you said. But can you show me one politician that would be willing to do these things once in office?
The problem is the country is split 50/50 and you can't please everyone, yet all politicians will try.

so here i'll give you 100 facts about our president and 1 truely honest opinion. since everyone who's not a bush support is stupid and not as smart and doesn't research like Bush supporters do.

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Maybe we'd be more impressed if you did your own research and posted your own opinions.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20041108/facts

Funny, you accuse us of repeating our reasons for supporting Bush, and you just repeat someone else's reasons to hate him.LOL

there is a big difference between opinions and facts

and thats isn't repeating someone else reasons for hating him. it's repeating FACTS.

maybe this will help you with the word "fact" http://www.merriamwebster.com/dictionary/fact

while your there look up "opinions"

okay, okay...

let's calm down here.

Why don't we talk about the fact that the so called "World Democratic Hegemon" (from the Bush Doctrine) is basically a two party electorate?

I'm not bashing. I want discussion. Hell, even Mexico has more than two parties (yes, I know...corruption)

donkey_punch said:

there is a big difference between opinions and facts

and thats isn't repeating someone else reasons for hating him. it's repeating FACTS.

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Well, since you have all the FACTS straight, maybe you have some kind of REAL solution as to how we can fix all the problems.

This is basically why most conservatives are sick of hearing complaints from the other side. It's always the same BS from people who don't realize that any politician from their own side would pull pretty much the same **** especially in a country that is 50/50 on almost everything. Everything is a complaint with no ideas for a solution. It gets a little annoying.
No Bush isn't the greatest president. But can you honestly say Gore or Kerry would've been any better? Every politician is gonna try to please everyone, and half-ass it on the issues that really matter to the country. You can see it in every administration. So excuse me if I picked the lesser of two evils based on the issues I believe in.

My biggest complaint about Bush is his border initiatives(or lack thereof). This is perhaps the one subject we are not 50/50 on, and he still can't make up his damn mind. I mean honestly, who cares about what a bunch of illegals think? But you can also blame the old liberal Supreme Court of the past who extended constitutional rights to illegals residing in the country. If not for that, we could arrest their asses for no reason, toss them back over the border, and the damn politicians won't have to worry about who their children will vote for in the future.

lol thats funny see i dont like bush im sure you know that but i think who ever gets in there makes no difference really ... i think he just wanted to be remembered by something... politics suck

trav_19 said:

... politics suck

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Amen!

Wars should be fought by soldiers and crime should be fought by cops. Damn politicians need to keep their mouths shut.

'66 coupe said:

Well, since you have all the FACTS straight, maybe you have some kind of REAL solution as to how we can fix all the problems.

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i have my opinions on how it could of been handle.


if our cowboy of a president made it to one history class, he would of learned what president Harry Truman did during WWII, and would of done it sooner.
by 9/12/01 this country should of bombed Afghanistan to the point it wouldn't be on any maps. and if Iran, Iraqu, or north korea got something to say, my mom always made enough to feed everbody and then some. and we could let that problem blow away in the wind with all of the dust, if you know what i mean.
and you repeat at any other threat that comes about.

the problem with the borders: you stop ****ing around and built the great wall of the Goddanm United States. then start to check everyone, if your not legal your gone.

time to start spending money here at home to improve our lives and our future not worry about fixing every other countrys problems.

i can go on and on but thats just a little taste.

bomb everyone.. well thats not the answer...because we wouldn't be getting threats...bombs would then be returned to land on our families houses!.. i feel if we had...to go over there...we never should have stayed there as long as we did... its just been too long...i dont even know what we are fighting for...just the other day a friend that i went to school with was killed over there.

There seems to be a lot of bickering about things that don't really matter anymore. The fact of the matter is, we're there and the crap has hit the fan, and we just gotta deal with it as best we can. Griping about what we should or should not have done doesn't get a damn thing done.

Now we just need to try to help the Iraqi people as best as we can. Make sure that the government can stand on their own two feet, and we need to stay there for as long as it takes. If we just leave, violence will escalate beyond all control, and if you think innocent people are dying now, you ain't seen nothin' yet, not to mention the cesspool of terrorism that Iraq would turn into with no real control. We're there and we're stuck with it, liberals need to just quit pissin' and moaning about the past, because I still haven't seen one viable REAL idea from any democratic candidate.

And about Saddam, good riddance! Looking at pictures of protesters who are blaming Bush for the execution can only make me laugh. For Pete's sake, he was tried in an Iraqi court and executed by the Iraqis. The only people who seems to be pissed off about it are people who AREN'T from Iraq.

donkey_punch said:

i have my opinions on how it could of been handle.


if our cowboy of a president made it to one history class, he would of learned what president Harry Truman did during WWII, and would of done it sooner.
by 9/12/01 this country should of bombed Afghanistan to the point it wouldn't be on any maps. and if Iran, Iraqu, or north korea got something to say, my mom always made enough to feed everbody and then some. and we could let that problem blow away in the wind with all of the dust, if you know what i mean.
and you repeat at any other threat that comes about.

the problem with the borders: you stop ****ing around and built the great wall of the Goddanm United States. then start to check everyone, if your not legal your gone.

time to start spending money here at home to improve our lives and our future not worry about fixing every other countrys problems.

i can go on and on but thats just a little taste.

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its either us or them

hey, wait a second, if you guys get a great wall of the united states, can I still get stang parts from you guys?