I thought overall it was a pretty fair review. The GT500 is a porker of a car tipping the scales at close to two tons, and let's face it ... a live axle on a $45K car is laughable. Ford has done nice things with the live axle, but if they want to stay competitive they should plan on deleting it for good.
I saw two mistakes. One which had to be deliberate -- the dyno test, which said 440, and he wrote "almost" next to the 500. That was a pretty big goof, as 440 at the wheels is a believable 500 bhp. The second mistake was the comment that the GT500 did not have a LSD, which is (or at least had better be) false. Pretty minor, as he only mentioned it in passing when the Roush video was playing.
And let's be honest -- as many negative comments as they had about the GT500, they seemed to have only praise for the Roush. "Costs $10K more than the Shelby, but it is $10K more car!"
I'd really like to see Ford come up with a road race Mustang. Nicely tuned suspension, make it IRS even, and as light as possible... none of this supercharger & iron block crap. Maybe a nice aluminum block 5.4L. Or better yet, lose the modular altogether and stick something better in there. Bring back the Windsor 351
Errr... what do you think brake horsepower is?Thing about it is though, in europe they state brake horsepower numbers as the big deal, here we do flywheel.
Errr... what do you think brake horsepower is?
Nope, brake horsepower is measured at the flywheel. For your reading pleasure, someone has written a nice Wikipedia article that covers all kinds of details on horsepower, including brake horsepower.brake horsepower is wheel horsepower.
I admit that I will have difficulty understanding you so long as you use terminology incompatible with the rest of the worldI don't think you understood my earlier posts then.
Nope, brake horsepower is measured at the flywheel. For your reading pleasure, someone has written a nice Wikipedia article that covers all kinds of details on horsepower, including brake horsepower.
I admit that I will have difficulty understanding you so long as you use terminology incompatible with the rest of the world.
I thought overall it was a pretty fair review. The GT500 is a porker of a car tipping the scales at close to two tons, and let's face it ... a live axle on a $45K car is laughable. Ford has done nice things with the live axle, but if they want to stay competitive they should plan on deleting it for good.
I saw two mistakes. One which had to be deliberate -- the dyno test, which said 440, and he wrote "almost" next to the 500. That was a pretty big goof, as 440 at the wheels is a believable 500 bhp. The second mistake was the comment that the GT500 did not have a LSD, which is (or at least had better be) false. Pretty minor, as he only mentioned it in passing when the Roush video was playing.
And let's be honest -- as many negative comments as they had about the GT500, they seemed to have only praise for the Roush. "Costs $10K more than the Shelby, but it is $10K more car!"
I'd really like to see Ford come up with a road race Mustang. Nicely tuned suspension, make it IRS even, and as light as possible... none of this supercharger & iron block crap. Maybe a nice aluminum block 5.4L. Or better yet, lose the modular altogether and stick something better in there. Bring back the Windsor 351
Spot on! The Mustang is built for the American driving experience which is much different than the British one. The American road system means greater distances to travel, more highways, fewer tiny spaces, etc. Moreover, many Cobra owners did not like the IRS and traded for the live axle because they drag race. Americans drag race in greater numbers than they road race. The live axle is just an attempt to give the people what they want (Exception noted, Rootus). I want the Windsor too! Bring back the pushrods!!
You're high.
The modular is an abortion. With three & four valve heads, VVT, and a lot of RPM we have finally produced Mustang GT's that make 300 bhp. While in the meantime people routinely take pushrod 5.0's to 300+ rwhp using significantly less complex technology.
Chevy uses pushrod motors to this day, and they create wonders like the Z06 Vette that will trounce anything Ford has ever produced, including the Ford GT.
The Camaro sucked because it was a poorly designed body put together cheaply and stuffed with a very nice drivetrain. Both Camaro and Mustang live or die based on V6 sales and only enthusiasts would suffer through the shortcomings of the Camaro to get the performance. Mustang has been for a long time a much more liveable daily driver, and it has ruled the V6 pony car world for a long time.
It's kinda sad that the only way Ford could make a Mustang that would take a Camaro in a straight line was to slap a roots blower on it. They need to ditch the modulars ASAP and go with a design that was actually meant to be RWD and offers the flexibility to evolve as needs dictate.
I find it somewhat entertaining that the original design intent of the modular was FWD (and not any V8's IIRC), and now the only modulars left in production are RWD V8's. Whoops.I would add that I really dislike the girth of the mod motors too.
I find it somewhat entertaining that the original design intent of the modular was FWD (and not any V8's IIRC), and now the only modulars left in production are RWD V8's. Whoops.
At the rate Ford is bleeding money right now, I wonder how much longer this can go on. With rumors going around that the "Big Three" may become the "Big Two", it seems like the domestic auto industry is in for some substantial changes. Who will own Ford in five years? What would a buyout mean for the Mustang?
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