Torque Boxes

ADub64 · Aug 16, 2005

What do torque boxes do, where do they go? Do they weld into place? I tried a search, but no luck on explanations.

rhyno9 · Aug 16, 2005

ADub64 said:
What do torque boxes do, where do they go? Do they weld into place? I tried a search, but no luck on explanations.

The front torque boxes are welded between the front framerail and the inner rocker panel directly beneath the toeboard. Convertibles had them installed on both sides. 67 Coupes and fastbacks had them only on the driver's side until 1968 and up then they were installed on both sides.

They are a structural component used to prevent the unibody from twisting.
Below is a link to someone's web site that replaced/installed torque boxes and floors

http://www.nenny.com/floors/index.html

dodgestang · Aug 16, 2005

IN 68 non-verts there are 4.....2 in the rear 2 in the front

in 67 non-verts there are 3.....2 in the rear 1 in the front

in 65 (like years)...there are only 2...both in the rear.

Adding front t-boxes to a 65 is an excellent way to stiffen the unibody and make a much better performing car, it is a modification though, so if you have intention for a 'concourse correct' car you don't install them. I put them in my 65 fastback and you can simply order the 67-8 t-boxes from any mustang supplier and installed them with some work(assuming you can weld). They tie the outer rocker the the subframe.

ADub64 · Aug 16, 2005

Will subframe connectors still fit if I add the torque boxes?

mustangman70 · Aug 16, 2005

So since i have a 70 coupe i should have them allready :dunno:

rhyno9 · Aug 16, 2005

mustangman70 said:
So since i have a 70 coupe i should have them allready :dunno:

Yep. You should have them up front. Dodgestang got it right.

dodgestang · Aug 16, 2005

ADub64 said:
Will subframe connectors still fit if I add the torque boxes?

Yes. T-boxes will not change your ability to use sub frame connectors on the car.

ADub64 · Aug 16, 2005

Is a torque box something you want to add to a current driver? I can't tell if the welding work could interfere with the paint.

dodgestang · Aug 16, 2005

t-box can ussually be installed with no impact to the paint. I put the 2 in the front of mine without a problem. They weld underneath the car and in the wheel wells behind the splash shields

mikehuyck · Apr 8, 2007

I am thinking of adding front torque boxes to my 66 coupe, but the floors and one front frame rail have already been replaced (the otehr frame rail was still good). Now I'm worried that the torque boxes should have been installed while the floor was out. Does anyone know if torque boxes can just be welded in without removing the floors (or any other labor intesive tasks)?

dodgestang · Apr 8, 2007

Yes you can install T-boxes with the floors in. I did just that on my 65.

rebel65 · Apr 9, 2007

i love dodgestang for this reason if nothing else.. <3 @ you !!! lol

yet another thing to learn to weld for, thanks. helped this 65 too !

Jester67 · Apr 9, 2007

dodgestang said:
Yes you can install T-boxes with the floors in. I did just that on my 65.

To be done correctly you will have to cut the toe board where it is welded to the inner rocker and slide the lip up through that slot and weld. Still no big thing but if you do not do this you will lose strength and triangulation of the torque box.

fasttback · Apr 9, 2007

Anyone have pics of a new torque box being installed? Should help explain things.

dodgestang · Apr 9, 2007

All these photos have been posted before as well as detailed descriptions to go with them

Jester67 · Apr 9, 2007

The lip on the third photo is what I am talking about

SCHOONER · Apr 13, 2007

Hey Guy

What a GREAT WEBSITE you posted on the TORQUE BOX INSTALLATION. It's help me so much.

Thanks again
GOD BLESS

Schooner

SCHOONER · Apr 13, 2007

Hi Guy

In this third pic. of the T/Box. It doesn't look right to me.
Is it only half-way installed.
I never mig welded a T/Box before, so please explain this picture to me please.

Thanks
GOD BLESS

Schooner

tylerrocks · Apr 13, 2007

can you "feel" this mod when driving? does the car feel more rigid?

dodgestang · Apr 13, 2007

In this picture

The box is completely installed and weld in place.
We slip the toe board extension along the side, the box is slide up from the bottom and the lip comes through the hole in the floor. We then weld the box to the top of the rocker as seen in the pic and the weld the cut floor to the box along the seam and drilled a few holes and did some plunge welding for good measure.

There is less rattles and creaks in the car after installing front boxes.

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