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Mstng93SSP

You have a nice rear end there Dave.
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In all of the pictures I have seen, including the latest your engine (to me) looks like it is in crooked. This and the way your shifter sits in the hole all tell me it is not in straight. The shifter should not be at an angle, it should be relatively centered in the shifter hole. In my opinion something isn't right, and it does not seem the new motor mounts corrected this.

Chris
 
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Mstng93SSP

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If you look at the map sensor in the back, at the part your upper intake is pointing at and compare it to other photos of fox engines you will see what I mean.
 
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Wayne Waldrep

Before I post a pic, do you have one of yours?
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Sorry but I agree with Chris. Rarely is a problem this obvious but this one is. That's good though because you don't have to wonder if it's right or not. Keep digging and posting pics and we'll make a community effort to help figure it out.
 

Dan02gt

mazing how much gas smell came from that tiny hole
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I agree the engine looks rotated counter clockwise in the bay. Could it be the motor mounts are in backwards or the trans cross member is reversed?
 
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Wayne Waldrep

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The transmission mount can't turn the engine if it's in correctly. It has to be engine mounts, bent kmember or ?
 
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I agree.... but it is a little better..... just a little......
 

Dan02gt

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Wayne Waldrep said:
The transmission mount can't turn the engine if it's in correctly. It has to be engine mounts, bent kmember or ?
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The fox cross member is not symmetrical. If someone reversed it the trans could be pulled towards the passenger side like in the photos causing the engine to be rotated counter clockwise.
Just a guess on my part though.
 

Wayne Waldrep

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Dan02gt said:
The fox cross member is not symmetrical. If someone reversed it the trans could be pulled towards the passenger side like in the photos causing the engine to be rotated counter clockwise.
Just a guess on my part though.
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Yeah but I just didn't think with the engine secured correctly you could even pull the transmission to one side.... But I've been surprised before...lol!
 

HemiRick

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I'm fixing to pull the k-member from a parts car I have....I will see if it even can be bolted in backwards, I'm prone to think its impossible.
 

Wayne Waldrep

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HemiRick said:
I'm fixing to pull the k-member from a parts car I have....I will see if it even can be bolted in backwards, I'm prone to think its impossible.
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He was referring to the transmission cross member.
 

General karthief

wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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I think it is not possible to bolt the K member in backwards, now if you can bolt the trans cross member in backwards I guess I've been lucky the couple times I've had mine out, never noticed.
 

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Its impossible for the K-member to go in backwards....but the motor mount holes are slots and allow the engine to rotate....he needs to loosen the mounts where they bolt into the k-member and rotate the engine to where the shifter is straight up and down and re-tighten them down. Here are pics of the mounts in the k-member. They are reversed L on R and visa vera. The important point it the mount hole is the front one thats more of a slot. This is where his problem is.
BTW the 1st pic is the drivers side and you can see why this car was scrapped, the front frame rail, and bottom of the shock tower is gone. The front clip has been cut off. I bought the car for $200 minus engine and interior and have made a mint off it selling parts.
 

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General karthief

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Those engine mount holes are nearly vertical, they will only effect tilt, one side of engine will be higher or lower if not seated completely.
I have a left engine mount I grabbed from my stash, the heads are off my engine so I can compare sides, it is possible to swap L/R mounts but the position the engine would be in looks like it would be impossible to install the trans mount to the cross mount, the engine would be too far forward. Maybe two right or left side mounts on the engine can cause this the cross member I have looks like it can be installed both ways but appears to also move the trans mount location forward or back, he needs to look at his engine mounts to see if there are installed with R/L and not two R or two L mounts.
This is an observation based on comparing the parts with an engine/trans installed in a car. I am not looking at his car so I can only give my opinion of what the possible problem would be.
I can't see how, if two R or L mounts were used that the trans mount would line up to the holes in the cross member.
 

Mstng93SSP

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I agree with checking to make sure the motor mounts are on the correct side.
 

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He has 2 issues the tilt and the apparent offset/crookedness. The tilt issue can be cured by doing what I said above....The offset is the mystery.
 

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When installed correctly the motor mount studs should be bottomed out in the slots.
The ONLY reason for the slots is to create clearance for the studs when setting the engine in place.
 
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ebone84

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I’ll be getting an alignment this summer so I’ll have them check the K-member.... but past alignments went fine ....
 

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From that angle the engine looks level now.
What did you find? Were the studs bottomed out in the slots before when the engine was all kittywampus?
 
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Trans still doesn’t set us straight as I would like for it to sit but it’s much better one of the engine mounts was collapsed passenger side ......
 
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