Tremec swap questions....

mstangfrk95GTS! · May 5, 2004

i am haveing trouble finding part numbers and other info on what i need to swap a 3550 Tremec into my 95, ive heard i need a Bellhousing and other crap but ive lso heard i just need to get the 94-95 specific tranny,

what i need to know is,
do i need a bell or will the t-5 bell work?
is my t-5 shifter gonna work?
i have a aluminum DS is it ok??

tell me what i need and the best places to find the stuff!!!

thanks in advance!!!

Imyourzero · May 6, 2004

That shifter won't work, you'll need one for a Tremec. Might need a different driveshaft, not sure...and don't forget about a clutch.

Nobody · May 6, 2004

Hey I was just looking for that info today. These guys look like they know their stuff. They have the whole install kit for the TKO swap in a 94-95.

http://ddperformance.com/

Venom351R · May 6, 2004

Just get a G-Force Transmission.....stronger then a tremmec, cheaper then a tremmec, lighter then a tremmec, not as much notchy shifting as a tremmec and you can use the same bell housing.

will4193 · May 6, 2004

You can use your bell housing. You will need a different shifter (pro 5.0). Drive shaft will work. When I say you need a diff shifter you don't really need one but I highly recomend it!! The tremec will come with the shifter already on you just need the handle and yours will work.

Adrenalin · May 6, 2004

mstangfrk95GTS! said:
what i need to know is,
do i need a bell or will the t-5 bell work?
is my t-5 shifter gonna work?
i have a aluminum DS is it ok??
thanks in advance!!!

- Tremec stopped making the 3550 trannys, and replaced them with TK500's
- The TK500's and 600's which replaced the TKO come with their own shifters that are supposed to be pretty good
- I have heard (not for sure) that those shifters arent as good as they claim so to be safe buy an aftermarket shifter for a Tremec
- For the TK500,600s you will need a different Yoke
- Ford Motorsport just went up on the prices of their Driveshafts from about $150 to $220.
- If you get the TK500 you can use a standard style clutch. I am not 100% certain about the TK600
- Tremecs use a different style bellhousing, an aluminum one to replace the stock one which require no modifications or Lakewood makes an SFI approved Bellhousing that 99% of the time needs some Modification to make fit and it also needs to be indexed in.
- The new tremecs are rated differently then the 3550 and TKO's.

(3550 rated to handle 400 ft lbs. of torque, TKO 450, TK500 rated to handle 500 ft lbs. while the TK600 is rated to handle 600 ft lbs of torque)

This info was provided to me from Powered By Ford in Orlando. They installed my New Tremec TK500, Lakewood B/H, Billet steel Flywheel, P/P, Clutch Fork and Aluminum D/S. I am going to pick it up in a few minutes.

slytherin · May 6, 2004

I've got the 3550 you will need 1.tranny, 1.bellhousing, 1.driveshaft spacer. might as well do the clutch while its apart better to be safe than sorry, might also do the aluminum driveshaft b4 they go up in price summitt's price doesn't go up till june sometime, make sure you shim up the tranny at the cross member, if you use the T5 dust/splash shield you'll have to trim the corner closest to the tunnel as it will hit when the tranny is shimmed. 3/8's of an inch is about all your going to get it shimmed.also doe an aftermarket shifter they work better than the one that the 3550 comes with d&d has the whole setup except their price went up on the d/s. do the whole adjustable clutch cable setup while your down there.as for the g-force kit iwas going to go that route but their customer service sucked so bad i cancelled my order, maybe they have changed since then. one last recommendation take it to a reputable shop you'll have less headaches

mstangfrk95GTS! · May 6, 2004

ok so i already have a alum DS, i have a Spec stage 2 sitting in a box, a adjustable quadrant, and cable.....

how much is the tk500 and the bell??

Imyourzero · May 7, 2004

slytherin said:
I've got the 3550 you will need 1.tranny, 1.bellhousing, 1.driveshaft spacer. might as well do the clutch while its apart better to be safe than sorry, might also do the aluminum driveshaft b4 they go up in price summitt's price doesn't go up till june sometime, make sure you shim up the tranny at the cross member, if you use the T5 dust/splash shield you'll have to trim the corner closest to the tunnel as it will hit when the tranny is shimmed. 3/8's of an inch is about all your going to get it shimmed.also doe an aftermarket shifter they work better than the one that the 3550 comes with d&d has the whole setup except their price went up on the d/s. do the whole adjustable clutch cable setup while your down there.as for the g-force kit iwas going to go that route but their customer service sucked so bad i cancelled my order, maybe they have changed since then. one last recommendation take it to a reputable shop you'll have less headaches

So do you like the 3550 or not? Is your car daily driven? How is the 3550 on the street? What HP/TQ is it rated for? I want my next tranny to either be a T5Z or a 3550...trying to get pros and cons of each.

Nobody · May 7, 2004

Does anyone here have a G-force T-5? Looks like the strength of the TKO witht eh stock T-5 form factor - cool deal! Do they make them for the 94-95? I don't see it mentioned anywhere on their site.

Imyourzero · May 7, 2004

A lot of people have been asking about the G-Force trannies. I thought they looked nice at first also...you keep the light weight of a T5 (a lot of people don't realize you will be slower with a TKO due to the weight) while being able to have a direct bolt-in replacement tranny which is much stronger than a regular T5.

But I hear that while the internals are very strong, the weak point is the case because they just reuse the stock T5 case. I remember reading about them having problems out of the cases...I think they were cracking or splitting open on cars with a lot of power. How much power I do not know, but it probably wouldn't be a problem on a mildly modded N/A 302.

Killercanary · May 7, 2004

Adrenalin- GOOD INFO! I couldn't have said it better myself.

I have a TKO, so its a little different than the 3550 in regards to spline count and such. I don't know a whole lot on the newer TKO stuff as it just came out. One item often not mentioned is you need two shorter bell housing bolts than our stock ones for the two top bolts in the bell housing, and if you use the alum bell I'd recommend you search and find a fox body dust shield for the clutch cable. TKO's require their own specific clutch disc (because of the spline count) and a new DS yoke for the same reason. I'm running a FMS alum DS for the 96-up cars as its the same yoke as the TKO. As for G-force... all I'll say is start doing your homework and searching through the forums and then make up your mind after reading about their customer service and such... it might change your mind on G-force, I know it changed mine. They have however just developed their own T5 case which is supposedly stronger and prevents flexing like the stockers do. I know they are freaking SWAMPED, so you might want to contact people like Bob Hanlon or Walt at Pro-motion if you're looking into the Gforce route, both of them can accomodate you and you'd probably have better customer service from them as well. I bought my stuff from D&D and I'd NEVER buy a thing from them again, they wipe their hands at the first sign of problems. I fought with my tranny for almost a year with vibrations and such before finally having Eric Swarr from Swarr's automotive put in a new front bearing, Bob hanlon replaced the synchro's, and I drove the car 7 hours to Toledo OH to have the TTC enginners look at the car (which was about as helpful as D&D)

mstangfrk95GTS! · May 7, 2004

damn that sucks, seems like th only manual trannys you can get rebuilt well to this day are the old school 4 spds, Muncie etc..

id love to just have a built t-5 but in my area there arent any places that id trust.
im almost ready to get the manual and that video and try to tacke it myself.

i too was looking into the G-force kit or stuff from D&D. not anymore.

im only gonna be pushing 325-350 hp at max so im not needing a lenco or anything.

slytherin · May 7, 2004

My impression on G-force is they don't seem to care about the little guy as you notice from there website they do serious drag car stuff.When I was dealing with them there was/is a guy named bubba who was the guy buiding their T5 kits. I placed my order he said the infamous 2wks line 2wks go by I call he's not in out to lunch,another 2wks go by I call ,allegedly they are waiting on some small parts kit I say OK, another 2wks the guy is not in again, another 2wks I call talk to another guy who says bubba isn't in again so I ask them the status on my order he looks into it it's sitting on the guy's desk or something no verbage on it or anything. needless to say next day i call cuz i'm pissed bubba answers the phone you can hear it in his voice he doesn't care so I cancelled my order.

94TURBO5 O · May 7, 2004

mstangfrk95GTS! said:
i am haveing trouble finding part numbers and other info on what i need to swap a 3550 Tremec into my 95, ive heard i need a Bellhousing and other crap but ive lso heard i just need to get the 94-95 specific tranny,

what i need to know is,
do i need a bell or will the t-5 bell work?
is my t-5 shifter gonna work?
i have a aluminum DS is it ok??

tell me what i need and the best places to find the stuff!!!

thanks in advance!!!

You will need a:
Bell Housing for 3550
DS Spacer
Speedo Gear
New Shifter (free one from Tremec sux I agree!)

Nik_95Cobra · May 8, 2004

OT a bit but Adrenaline, how's your tk500 working? Is it as noisy as the 3550's? I was thinking about getting rid of my 3550 and getting the tk500 instead. I hate how freakin noisy it is. BTW adreniline has the best avatar I've seen in a long time Mustangfreak95...If you haven't bought your tranny yet try and find someone else with one and see how loud it is before you make your decision.

Adrenalin · May 8, 2004

Nik_92Stang said:
OT a bit but Adrenaline, how's your tk500 working? Is it as noisy as the 3550's? I was thinking about getting rid of my 3550 and getting the tk500 instead. I hate how freakin noisy it is. BTW adreniline has the best avatar I've seen in a long time Mustangfreak95...If you haven't bought your tranny yet try and find someone else with one and see how loud it is before you make your decision.

I like the TK500, it is very nice, it feels/sounds smooth and has no vibration. I can't really compare it to a real 3550 as the one I had in my car for that week was junk. It was loud sounded like sand/grit was inside and vibrated like a washingmachine on spin cycle while out of balance. I am breaking it in for 500 miles (and I must admit it is very hard not to stomp on it and is killin me!!) but I have eased it up to about 110 on a back road and it feels no different then if I were cruising in town at 45. Thanks for the comp. on the avatar!! I like her too

Paul thanks, I totally forgot about the shorter bellhousing bolt size and driveshaft spacer and with the TK500 I also had to use an aluminum d/s from a 96 up car (sheesh where is my memory). The TK500 uses a standard spline clutch setup but the TK600 uses the different spline count.

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