Trick Flow 2V N/A 408hp on Horse Power T.V.

LaserSVT · May 3, 2009

joshjwc9 said:
With pricing it out, a believe that they ran it through the dyno without the TF Intake Manifold.

So the..

$2000=heads
$250=plenum
$600=Cam/Valvesprings etc.

$3000 after some little things....plus installation.

The TF intake would definitely increase the torque with the much longer runners too!

I wish I could have seen it!

They did the run with the TF intake.
Here are some shots from the show:
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rpburnette said:
I saw the episode and I am very curious. I would like to know how it would effect the driveability. Does anyone have these heads?

A lot of people say it would be better to get a blower and if your goal is upwards of 400Hp than probably so, but they forget one thing. A car with a blower is one detonation away from blowing the stock engine. If you don't have the money for a new engine or for forging your engine, than I wouldn't play with forced induction. I would love to s/c my stang, and while I could afford the $4k for the s/c, I can't afford a new engine or a forged engine. I already know that a s/c car can be very safe, but it still can blow the engine, nothing is %100. Yes, I have heard of all the people that say they have s/c and they have been fine for years, but for how many miles. Mine is a daily driver and I put roughly 18,000 miles/year on my car and currently have 136,000 on my 02. I put more miles on my car in one year than some people have on their cars. N/A is a great way to go for those of us that use our cars as dd and don't need 400Hp. Sorry to rant, but people often forget to add the cost of a new engine or rebuilding one when comparing s/c to n/a.

I am thinking now of a GT for DD cause I can find low mile 02-04 GTs for under 7 grand. Figure another $2500 (if I shop and be patient) for the H/C/I and I can have a powerful reliable DD for well under 10K that has the good looks of a Stang

ADRENLN · May 3, 2009

yea, it way late. many of us already bought ported head set ups. now i have to fork over another 3000 bucks if i want an extra 40-50 rwhp!!!! also have to go through taking the whole set up off and apart and doing it over again. labor costs. only reason i would consider this is if i want to make more power without raising the boost.

i am looking to get bigger cams though so maybe these will be in my future anyways. i just really wonder if they will even be that much better then my stage 2 ported fox lake heads. with a more aggresive cam and and aftermarket intake......those heads might not even make more power in the end.

id have to get some proven cases from guys who made the switch

LaserSVT · May 3, 2009

Just out of curiosity, how long after the Fox stopped being made was it before TF, Edelbrock, AFR all came out with their really good heads? Was the car still in production or was it a few years latter?
I really dont know and am not being a smartass

roundboy · May 3, 2009

i hate to say it but my head cam intake 2v with stock bottom end did 310rwhp with just stock ported heads and stage 2 cams with the trickflow intake.. so the trickflow heads did not make that much more then mine did.Oh and i see in the pic a elec water pump and no pulleys on the motor... that makes up some power.. i still have a stock water pump and all the pulleys on the front of my motor.

money
Vt stage 2 cams 600.00
heads used 500.00
trickflow intake 750.00
1850.00

scupking · May 3, 2009

I agree with roundboy. You can get up to 310 rwhp with the stock heads, stage II cams, LTs and dyno tune. Yes 408hp is nice but that is just an engine dyno. Add accessories and drive train loss, your looking at around 320-330 rwhp. I don't think it's worth it to get heads on the 2v.

Just think with stock heads you can get

Stage II cams = 600
LTs = 400
Dyno tune = 400

So for $1400 you are looking at 300+ rwhp (around 350 crank hp) and you save a lot of money on getting new heads, that's not bad if you ask me.

race-stang · May 3, 2009

anyone know what kind of power these would make on a non PI motor by any chance? It should be quite a bit more right? Im looking at doing a similar set-up on my car, cuz I dont want to go the forced induction route. looking to do heads, cams, P-51 intake manifold, and the Kooks long tube header and X-pipe. Gonna try for around 350 at the wheels.

LaserSVT · May 3, 2009

race-stang said:
anyone know what kind of power these would make on a non PI motor by any chance? It should be quite a bit more right? Im looking at doing a similar set-up on my car, cuz I dont want to go the forced induction route. looking to do heads, cams, P-51 intake manifold, and the Kooks long tube header and X-pipe. Gonna try for around 350 at the wheels.

A non PI should see another 10 horses or so. @420hp - acc. - driveline should have you at 345-355 rwhp

007 · May 3, 2009

Actually, thats a great point. These heads are an absolute no-brainer purchase for folks with non-PI gts. The difference will be staggering compared to the crappy stock heads.

crazystang25 · May 3, 2009

Anyone know which size combustion chamber they were usin.
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crazystang25 said:
Anyone know which size combustion chamber they were usin.
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joshjwc9 · May 3, 2009

LaserSVT said:
They did the run with the TF intake.
Here are some shots from the show:

I am thinking now of a GT for DD cause I can find low mile 02-04 GTs for under 7 grand. Figure another $2500 (if I shop and be patient) for the H/C/I and I can have a powerful reliable DD for well under 10K that has the good looks of a Stang

Aha...I was going by what you posted on your first post "Heads, plenum, cams" and thought that they didn't run the intake.

This test was still slightly unspecific because we do not know the specs on the shortblock, or the cams, valvetrain, throttle body size etc.

I really don't think that $2000 for some true aftermarket cylinder heads, I don't see them going for more than $2400 at the most for the small combustion chamber heads is too much.

Hell, ported stockers are between $1200 and $2000.

98GTfromGA · May 3, 2009

I like the fact that Trick Flow came out with these heads, I wonder how much better they are than these.

Ford Mustang Two Valve Engine Build - Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords Magazine

Livernois is getting 225cfm and 435 hp with a PI intake!

LaserSVT · May 3, 2009

^ Well that certainly trumps the TF. Unless they have a different bottom end.
The TF rating was supposedly on a stock bottom end

007 · May 3, 2009

98GTfromGA said:
Livernois is getting 225cfm and 435 hp with a PI intake!

You can hand port the trick flows to 260cfm.

They built the whole motor from scratch! Not exactly the same.

Js90Lx · May 3, 2009

Some of you guys are missing the point. The heads are total redesigns! Lots of upgrades over the factory heads. These heads have soooo much potential.

ADRENLN · May 3, 2009

the question how much better are they then actual ported pi heads.

of course they are going to blow away any unported nonpi or pi heads....but haow do they stack up to the ported pi that i have.

thats the data that will let you know if the heads are worth it. also when the throw them on a stock caar and do a dyno will tell us really where these heads are in comparison.

yeas, they can be ported too....but tf should just sell them ported then!

5spd GT · May 3, 2009

Not only do you have to factor in drivetrain loss, but accessory loss as well.

jtcstrat1 · May 3, 2009

can these heads accept any cams? could i reuse my comp cams? my blown gt is to the max other than heads/intake

scupking · May 3, 2009

jtcstrat1 said:
can these heads accept any cams? could i reuse my comp cams? my blown gt is to the max other than heads/intake

I don't see why not.

LaserSVT · May 3, 2009

scupking said:
I don't see why not.

In the episode they say the valves are repositiond and fliped to the other side :shru: Not sure how that works but it sounds like new cams are needed

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